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Sometimes I don't realise that I am doing this lol. Ego can get ya without you even realising. I try to force out this internal monologue.

As I'm working on the non-duality route, I find myself with emotions and certain thoughts that create pleasure. Non-duality should not be an escape for the psychological mind to create security and pleasure, but I can't help myself be at peace everyday as I go deeper into this thinking. Difference between being at peace and pleasure? Isn't being at peace also pleasurable? Any tips to stop being attached to non-duality?

I forget how important this can be

@Faceless This is something I don't exactly know what it is, and I won't pretend to understand it. I understand pleasure seeking mechanics and the memory/thoughts, but understanding the actuality of the fact (or escape) is something I don't know. I know I can't understand it in duality, and I think you know what I mean when I say understand. I can't understand it with thoughts, so I need to work on it existentially. Can't verbally communicate this either but it's a strong insight, I will do some more work. Thank you So I shouldn't be worried about being stuck, which is why I made this post. As long as I am conscious of the attachment and pleasure. Thank you

I see, it's an escape from fact... Is this fact something I can only discover existentially?

We're not escaping from anything. We think we are escaping from something but If we go deeper on why we don't want to escape, then I think we realise that there is nothing to escape from. But what did you mean with this?

I'm not sure. I can't say anything now, I haven't looked into security. How to be aware of this?

Never thought of this, what does security actually mean? The security that I will get pleasure? That I will "secure" a pleasure at least?

I know what you're exactly talking about. I've done this observation before. It happens to me with food. So "I" love eating junk food when watching movies at night, sort of a tradition of mine . When I get the food at the supermarket, I get excited, but then I put awareness on this excitement and it's just as you have said. I re-experience the experience of me enjoying my fatass watching Netflix, and the pleasure from it. Then... When I actually do the eating and watching, it is never like the previous experience. When I finish, I get realisation of "well, that wasn't as good as last time". To be honest, it's more now like "why did I do that?" I get excited, then disappointed, I don't know where this disappointment comes from though, and I don't think it's not from the previous experience or memory, it's something deeper, but I become extremely aware of it.

Memory?

That is true, I do have awareness. So this pleasure can be considered as an addiction like drugs? Is it worth doing some work on addictions as well?

I understand what you've said and coming from, and I agree with you. It's not really that I'm trying to resist the pleasure, I'm not, it's more about will I get addicted to this pleasure? And when I say addicted, it's not about this addiction not benefiting me but making me stuck

Not really. I don't even know why I'm pursuing in self-actualisation or any of this work. I don't want anything fixed in my life, I don't want pleasure. It use to be like that I guess until understanding a little bit more about duality and other concepts but now... It's just whatever, I'm doing it for no particular reason. By the way, I'm not depressed or anything. I don't resist the pleasure or anything like that. I don't encourage this as well, this is just my personal journey.

No, I fucking hate this. I'm not trying to pursue pleasure, that's the entire point ;( But I'm getting this pleasure from understanding duality and I don't know what to do with it. At the same time, I don't want to reject it because it's valuable observation but then, will I get addicted to this state?

I like this a lot. It's one of the insights I've recieved when meditating but I never accounted for the psychological "states" that occure, only the momentarily emotions. Yeah, I'm going I accept it. There is no use in rejecting but I feel like I will be addicted to the state So that's where my problem is coming from, I feel like I am receiving pleasure from the work to understand duality. I do get pleasures and security from it when I don't seek or want it . I observe it of course, and see how I'm receiving pleasure from being at peace. But then Is this peace false? I'm not really trying to understand or get caught up with this work, It's more about that I am receiving this pleasure from being "peace". What do I do with this? Thank you, I will have to give this a go, this is something needs exploring

@cetus56 @Etagnwo So this peace/comfortable is still a state, and being non-dual is still a state, meaning the goal is to not be in any of these states. At the same time, not having a goal either... I understand this can't be verbally communicated. So letting your mind be free is being in no-state. That's something I didn't think of. So what should I do with my current situation, how do I accept this comfort and peace? I want to be careful when these pleasing emotions/states occur because If I accept them and let them be which is what I do with all things, I could be attached/addicted to them I feel like if I accept them, I can't get out of them.

So, it's perhaps me being comfortable is leading to this dilemma, I just hope I don't become attached to this and feel like I need to attach to this belief

This is valuable. Finding a hobby or something else instead of gaming is a good way to distract yourself. Getting a job is better because you're literally forced to focus on it rather than playing videogames. Going to the gym is great as well since you'll get too tired for gaming

I say gradual. Just keep playing but play with awareness. Realise what the fuck you're doing, Observe the effect it has on you. For example, when you play, does it make you sad or happy? Angry or stress-free?, Whatever feelings comes up, observe it, observe the pleasure that comes, but don't judge it as bad or good, just observe and don't resist. You have plenty of time to remove the addiction and I find gradual is less painful... So don't feel guilty when playing But if you're hardcore as fuck, then DELETE everything like the others said.

The human is experiencing it. It's nice to say that everything is an illusion, but an illusion doesn't mean it's nothing. It is something, but we don't know what it is because we don't know what existence is. Nobody is experiencing the "experience", it's just the memory of the brain creating the illusion. There was nobody in the first place but the human, the human which is not you

Why do you want an experience in the first place?

This is basically Twitch.tv. Went from casual gaming streams to drama and personalities. Very competitive and toxic area in my opinion and would avoid

You'll probably do this. I don't play a game for self-improvement but for fun. Doesn't mean you should stop playing games, as games can help release tension but don't use it for spiritual practice. There are better practices to do to become more conscious. Sure the game makes you concentrate hard, but that doesn't mean shit. You can concentrate on an exam, driving, gym, reading, pretty much anything. Concentrate is in these terms are different to the concentration you're doing with spiritual practices. Spiritual practices include a variety of concentrations like no thinking, or letting go, or awareness, mindfulness. I don't see how you can get awareness of your thoughts in a game where you're being aware in the game rather than on yourself. Hey I might be wrong... Explore for yourself but watch out for traps

Firstly, I try avoid teaching people, I only give my opinions. I can't teach people because I don't actually know shit. I think it would take me more than 20 years to actually teach somebody these topics. That's just my view, don't teach unless you actually know your shit. Also, when we talk about self-actualisation, we can go into really deep and existential topics that can cause further damage to someone. So be sensitive to their feelings/mindset. It can be extremely scary and that's why I avoid it. Only show the way This leads to "don't teach people but show the way". The best teacher is yourself so show and introduce these topics, don't enforce it onto them Now i'm not accusing you of being stupid or anything, but it's important to recongise your limits so you can go beyond them. Just don't teach people anything, as it can be understood in the wrong way. But if somebody is actually asking for help from you, show the way, don't teach them it.

@cetus56Going to be honest, I don't even have a list. I really need one haha. I'll make one soon to work on the gazing, do some retreats. I think it's time