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Who are some really prolific scientists of the 21st century(alive right now)? People who work on really yellow stage scientific projects, and have a remarkable level of mastery over the scientific method and possibly mathematics? I'm thinking of modern day Leonardo Da Vincis, Einsteins, Bhor, Leibniz, Henry Poincare, Pythagoras, Douglas Hofstadler, etc? Which universities or research organizations around the world have the most amount of people of this calibre?

@Joseph Maynor YES!! My experience is much more similar to hers than Leo's Having said that: 1. She says that everything and nothing is a stepping stone and she derives that reason from her experience as just 'nothing' and no 'everything'. My experience is the same as hers, I experience literally nothing and I have no idea what Leo means by 'everything' or I've never experienced 'everything' before. Yet I have a feeling that this is an interpretative difference rather than experiential difference, and not because Leo is less advanced than her. Leo might be trying to say everything as in form rather than formless, but I'm not sure. 2. Totally agree with her when she says awakening has nothing to do with changing facts. In my awakening experiences, facts do not change only your perspective of it. Yet at the same time, what DOES change facts(like the physical world being made up) is actually not consciousness work but philosophy work: reading philosophy, intellectual contemplation, etc.. I think Leo mixes consciousness work up with intellectual work, hence he thinks that awakening experiences cause you to loose sense of physical reality or any other relative facts. relative facts only change when you do a lot of intellectual contemplation work, or in other words, authentic western science. 3. Totally agree with her with the lower self and higher self. She said Leo thinks there is a higher self, but in her experience she has only experienced nothingness. I experience the exact same. When I experience no ego, I don't get an experience of being god. I just get an experience that I do not exist. Like whether I'm god, or a self, or a lamp or an alien is totally irrelevant. The whole trying to identify yourself as something game drops away, and hence I do not experience myself as 'God' Reality is just existing the way it is, there is no identification at all. So yeah don't get at all what Leo means by we are 'God' 4. Again agree with her with the distinctions. But again, I think that's because she doesn't do much intellectual contemplation.

whoever invented time was a genius, he/she create an entirely new world from what existed. Time is sort of like a strange looped book keeping system. It keeps track of things that never existed.

Interesting but, what's wrong with imagination? Did you know that there have been multiple cases of art and sculptures erecting spiritual experiences in people? By imagining, one has reached the absolute. If you walk into a temple, and observe the beautiful sculptures and artworks and IMAGINATION on the walls, you can get enlightened. Also do really question whether or not your premise is correct. Do you have proof that self inquiry causes the mind to work the way you think it does? If yes, you are already enlightened, if not then that understanding is IMAGINATION. A blind belief. If you aren't in an enlightened state, any experiences you have had with self inquiry are just memories. And these memories aren't the truth, they are actually just IMAGINATION. Imagination is very powerful, and is a beautiful tool for reaching the absolute. The problem only arises when you use imagination to suffer -> use it to justify hatred, prejudice, attachments to things that aren't worth being attached to, etc. There's nothing inherently wrong with beliefs and imagination. There's nothing wrong with a kitchen knife, infact its deeply helpful. But you can use a kitchen knife to stab and kill someone.

@Maya_0 You forgot to Ask the malicious jester profound questions. You should go back and ask him. Of course not with English, but with the language of the soul.

This whole topic has a very long history: Its called 'meditation'. Or that's at least what its definition was pre renaissance.

I have been astral projecting every morning for 6 months continuously now for enhancing my life purpose. I am really struggling to integrate my insights and experiences into the physical world after astral projecting. Astral projection seems like a dream after coming back, even though it feels more real than the physical universe while you're doing it. How do you effectively integrate the experiences so that you draw insights and new perspectives from the physical world, using the insights from the astral world? How do you properly bring back what you discovered in the astral world to the physical world, ideally perfectly?

what about a non dual view of creation: The manifestation of life could be called a 'creation'. God's form as the creation, and the formless as the creator. "it does not matter to god whether we spread truth or lie" Does that imply then, that we have free will? Does god have the power to control whether we lie or tell the truth? If not why? If God has that control, then why is God letting us spread lies? After all, God is pure love. Christians say that the reason why God allows crime and hatred in this world is because he gave us free will, but in my experience, free will doesn't exist. I don't have control over the next word I write in this sentence right now. Its happening completely out of my control. When you understand that, then why is evil happening?

What are the tellable signs that while you are reading this post you are not dreaming? What is it about that that makes you 'know' you aren't dreaming? Do you have not belief but evidence for it, a 'spiritual' feel for it? Can't you then imagine that this feel can be used to guage how real astral projection is? But what's the point in figuring out if astral projection is real or a dream, when you aren't even sure if your ordinary life is a dream? Surely you must figure out the validity of your baseline(your state now) before using this baseline to figure out other realm's validity? What if instead, you observed the astral realm for what it is, without judging or figuring out its validity, and just draw insights from the pure empirical evidence you get? No need to figure out how real it is, so long as its helping you understand reality more.

- why does god want it that way? Why has god pushed us all, his creation, to know the Truth and spread it? Is a creation that knows itself the perfect creation? Why then does the devil and illusion exist? where did it come from? who is illusion's creator? If god didn't create illusion how then does it exist as it is?

Yes of course there are benefits to it. But it depends what are benefits to you and what aren't benefits to you? If you want to realize that the universe isn't 'clockwork' or 'mechanistic' then yes its a benefit. If you want to bring out subconscious traumas you have and heal them, then yes its a benefit. If you wish to get enlightened and you want AP for that, then no it wont do that for you. If you want AP to make you smarter, better at sex, or anything else, then no AP wont do that for you either.

I understand what you are saying. When I wake up, I loose all memories of my dream in about 5 seconds. Same with AP(or its slightly better). How do I make the memories more vivid? Surely there's techniques while DOING astral projection to compliment your ability to remember what happened. This is just my experience, but you gotta be more gentle on the re-entry or exit if this starts to happen.

You just mentioned 3 very valuable things about OBE, why did it become a distraction? Thanks and I read ‘mastering astral projection’ When you are sleeping, have you had the sensation that you’re falling off a building or you are tripping over? Then you wake up? Doctors call it hyping jerk or sleep starts. What doctors don’t know is this is actually a partial AP. Your subtle body fell out of your physical body, and that’s why you got that sensation. So everyone is born with it, some people just get the sensation more than others.

If you have the intention to completely drop every judgment you have about all human beings on the planet - especially in scenarios where the humans hurt you out of ignorance and selfishness, is loving kindness an effective way to do that? If not what techniques work for you for this intention?

cool, seems like it would work.

What would a deeply spiritually evolved physical scientist create? Would the scientist quit science or continue it? What would the scientist's life purpose evolve to? Is it possible to revolutionise the physical sciences to a deeper level?

yeah Stephen Hawkins was definitely wrong when he said philosophy is dead. But at the same time i totally understand why he said it, bad philosophy is also very toxic, and its very easy to be a bad philosopher. Do you think there is some value in looking at combining science and art? They way renaissance architects and Da Vinci envisioned? Do you think science needs to be more psychologically focused rather than materialist focused? Is there a place for mathematics in a world without materialism? In small regards to this comment, Imagine there was a person who would in 30 years revolutionise the hard sciences. He built a temple which got people into extraordinary states of consciousness. He used new perspectives and paradigms he developed in his 30 years of combining traditional science with spirituality and art, to formulate the design of the temple. Does this scenario sound likely? Or is this a pipe dream that shouldn't be attempted in your opinion?

Thanks! Amen agree. And also your LP if you intend to revolutionise the world in a grand way. You need to work with people to cause a revolution, instead of judging them.

interesting, maybe a hyper advanced version of science will be like a magnificent ancient egypt occult.

@Leo Gura thanks, you're right, I should stop looking for shortcuts.

Yes you do very briefly. 1. How are you sure cross reference is a valid way of predicting the truth of something? Cross reference relies on the assumption that consistency leads to truth. Do you believe that and if so why? 2. How much do you trust gut feelings? Not in that video, but in a comment you once wrote to me in regards to that video, you said that you read from all different sources, then throw it away and let your subconscious mind eat all of it up and generate a feel for what's right and what's wrong. Does this mean your technique largely involves trusting your gut feeling? Is there a difference between an inner muse and a gut feeling? Can you trust either one? Why do you trust your gut feeling? When can you? Are there techniques for training your gut feeling so that its more effective at existential stuff like spirituality(in other words beyond the ways mentioned in thinking fast and slow)? 3. How do you effectively map raw experience to intellectual concepts/information/knowledge? If you have an existential insight about something, what ways can you know whether someone else is talking about the same thing as you? How do you effectively map this experience to words(without distorting it, or alternatively distorting it in a way that helps you compare it to other sources)? 4. What is active listening in essence? What is critical thinking in essence? How do you measure your performance in either one? How do you improve them? 5. Does spirituality help you in this topic? 6. What is believing vs thinking for yourself in essence? 7. What is fundamentally the difference between thinking in principle, and thinking in analogies? What are the ramifications of this for making use of spiritual sources, and also sources in general for scientific work? 8. if you don't want to answer any of the above questions, at least answer this one, the most important one of all: What is high quality critical thinking vs low quality critical thinking? How can you improve your skills? What metrics or performance indicators can you use to improve it? Are there any metaphysical and existential practices to improve this area?

where did you learn your techniques on critical thinking and taking advantage of knowledge and information for the sake of Truth rather than just blindly believing it? How do you critically think? This is something you seem to do that very few teacher do.

did God create survival?

@okulele thanks! Didn't realize that video existed. Must have missed it a year ago.

Which books are great for teaching you skills and techinques for how to understand reality well. Well I mean with clarity, holistically, etc. Understanding the universe from a yellow or turquoise perspective. Are there any spiritual techniques for this? Maybe like a jnana yoga but not for absolute infinity but for relative reality? Any good books on critical thinking? Active listening? How do you absorb stuff from a philosophy book in a totally wise way, what's the best way to get insights from them? Are there any meditation techniques directly applicable for such a use case? Would really love a jnana yoga sort of philosophy and practice for studying the universe, rather than studying who you are. Like a contemplative practice where you could contemplate on some phenomena of reality and get really deep with it. Would love to understand what the laws of physics are made of, why they work the way they do, what is a square in essence? What is light? What is qualia? I'm looking for some practice or technique to really go deep and understand what is all this stuff and how it was created, why it was created, the consequences of its creation, etc. My life purpose is to revolutionise science in a way which sparks waves of curiosity in people and enables the human race to reduce suffering. To do this, one needs a really good understanding of what science is, and what needs to change. Also what reality is too.