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there is no such thing as enlightenment, yet you must enlighten to see that.

Look that all makes sense IF you're a human with a daughter. But IF you are the rapist, and the entire universe. And you are the creator of evil and wrongdoing. If its done and created by you... that's different. That's when you will love the rapist that rapes your daughter, because you are the rapist. You've been reincarnating as a person for millions of years. The question is, how long are you going to before you take the plunge and accept that you are the rapist, and your destiny is to Love the rapist, no matter what the rapist does?

Sometimes living through your deepest fears, is actually a good thing.

have you noticed that all of your friends are like that? And not just friends, but family members? Your mum only cares about you so long as your her son. If you're not her son or don't meet her expectations of what a son is, you're disowned. Your friends only care about you so long as you provide them with what they need. If you stop, they stop being your friend. Your girlfriend only cares about you so long as you provide her with her expectations and needs. If you stop, she divorces you. Leo's followers only care about Leo so long as he produces videos that meet their expectations. If Leo stops, Leo's followers start complaining and asking him to go back to 'how he was' or his 'old ways and self'. This is human nature, face it. This is what bondage is. People care about things because they get attached to ideals they have about a particular person. As soon as that ideal starts to fade away, so does the relationship and bondage.

Its total when you realize there's no such thing as total. infinite layers is part of the dream, the spiritual dream.

The way self sufficient old men and women on the hill did, and the way yogis in cave did, sounds pretty enticing.

It can feel like, you're finally choosing the thing to do, that you've always wanted to do, but was too afraid to do it because of your parents or girlfriend's opinion, fear of being broke, being rejected by society. Even your own ego: you could have built up an identity based on past experiences and deep rooted beliefs of who you are, and to live your life, you've got to dismantle it and live by someone or something that you think you 'aren't are'. For example believing you're a scientist but your true purpose is to be a soccer player. Even social status. Choosing to be a monk rather than a famous, successful businessman or teacher can feel like you're going low and turning into an incumbent. But once you take the plunge, and finally choose to do what you really really wanted to do all along, there's a feeling of great release, great weight off your shoulders. There's a feeling of synchronicity with the world around you. There's a feeling of natural conscious flow, like consciousness is a river, and instead of 'doing' stuff, you're just letting it naturally flow into place, and that happens naturally. And it can feel like you've re-birthed literally, like you reincarnated into another person, as your previous career, life, relationships, etc die off.

Once consciousness raises to a certain level, different ways of perceiving the world becomes accessible at ease. Different ways of perceiving the world leads to bending the rules of the world in ways that it cannot through a traditional materialistic view. This is what I generally see as the occult. You could say its engineering on another dimension. I haven't looked, as its not generally an interest to me, even if it does exist and leads to many possibilities. But there is undeniable suffering in the world at large from the survival of the human race. And with no particular moral intent, I wish to reduce that suffering as much as possible by bending the rules of reality to allow me to survive on less food, and cause less suffering. I have a strong urge to use as little, if any of this earth. I want to consume way less, food, natural resources for tools and equipment, house materials, etc. Its not really a logical or preemptive thing, its just a desire or something I'm drawn to doing. I've just heard of certain yogic techniques for living off very little food, for sleeping less, and for surviving in very cold climates by using kundalini energy to produce temperature to make the body survive, rather than consuming from the earth and making blankets and stuff. I don't know why, and I know it must sound very stupid and strange, but the idea of consuming less, having barely any possessions, and bring all survival back to the body (through the occult) sounds very beautiful to me. Maybe a way to describe it, is karma. All possessions and indulgence has a karma to it. Nothing wrong with that, but it does, and by exiling those possessions and indulgence from your life, you are purifying yourself from karma. If you view karma as a mental or intellectual construction and limitation, you can see how relying on blankets adds karma. The subconscious, hidden fear of the blanket being taken away from you is always there, adding suffering. You need the blanket to survive, and as survival is a source of suffering, the blanket adds suffering. The blanket also reinforces the sense of being a human. To be a human means to need a blanket to survive, otherwise you freeze to death. But see this is not your true nature, and there is no need to limit yourself in this way. You are not a human, and you can use the occult to warm yourself up in a superhuman fashion. You can see how all materialistic possessions add this karma. Houses are more than your shelter, the fact that you need a house defines who you are, and adds karma to your life. The fear you get of losing your house is because your house isn't simply some objective thing where if you lose it you die, no. The house on a metaphysical level IS the ego. A house is part of an ego. Without an ego, there is no house. For me personally, stuff like these realisations have fuelled this new lifestyle I want to live. This is why the thought of it endows me in Love. The possibilities from taking these steps is awe striking. So much karma can be freed from living this way for a few years. It sheds the identity significantly and adds so much bliss and love. Just imagine barely any material possessions, and all survival that was outsourced to these possessions are embodied within you through mind training and the occult. Its a very blissful way to live. The more you do this, the more you also heal others. The less you take, the more you give to others. So it works to help you and others. And the compassion and knowing that you're not taking, makes you feel like you're not hurting anyone, not hurting the wildlife, other people, etc. There's also a lot of subconscious suffering from taking if you're sensitive to it. When you take food, there is a lot of karma in that even if its not visible. It adds suffering. You relieve it by taking less. I'm not saying you must change your life to the extreme I want to, to free yourself of this karma. You probably don't have to. But not only is this a way of freeing myself, but I also want to do it and am drawn to living like it. So I'm simply going with the flow.

Depends of the intent. The ego works through resistance. Its bread and butter is resistance. If you resist what IS, you create worlds, dimensions, societies, and life. The Truth is Love and Light. The Truth is no worlds, no separation, just IS. Hedonists indulge as a form of resistance. To indulge for them, means to resist Truth in favour of the rosy picture of all Joy, Love and Truth being in the Sex, Money, Fame, Food of what they seek. They create worlds by doing this, worlds of the woman or man of my dreams containing all the Truth and Love I could hope for, western science containing all the Truth and Omnipresence one needs to be happy, fame and sex containing all the Joy and Truth I need to be fulfilled. Cynics, and fundamentalists, abstain from indulgence as a form of resistance. To abstain for them, means to resist Truth in favour of the rosy picture of what they think god and spirituality means. They create worlds by doing this, worlds of a God in the sky containing all the Love and Truth I could possibly need, Shiva yogic deities containing all the Love and Truth I could need, special Gurus containing all the Love and Truth I could need. Both sides of the coin create worlds, worlds that cannot be realized, precisely because they are resistance to IS. IS does not abstain from Sex, Money, Fame. But neither does IS indulge in Sex Money or Fame. IS has nothing to do with abstaining or indulging. IS, is not resisting, not creating worlds, not chasing worlds. Its a regression of both abstaining and indulging. For me, this regression looks like abstaining from the outside, but its simply a retreat back from creating worlds, back to BEING. In practice, that looks like an effort to not have sex, money, fame, or to indulge. But its completely different and independent. Rather, the ego has been conditioned for so long, has been in power for so long, that it resists and take control of consciousness out of instinct. To regress from worlds means to let go of the ego's need to control, need to resist. God naturally does not indulge or abstain, both of them are egoic. God does not need to abstain, but he does not need to drink wine or have sex either. Those are worldly affairs, affairs done as pretending to not BE. And creating and taking worlds seriously, confusing them for IS.

@At_Giza keep going and you wont remember what time is .

There are imaginary illusions that when occur cause truth to be revealed. Ramana Maharshi said that when you dream, you may dream of a lion, but that doesn't mean the dream can't wake you up. This is very true. Meditation is an illusion, yet it wakes you up. Psychedelics is an illusion, yet it wakes you up. Science is an illusion, yet it creates 5 meo dmt which wakes you up! Leo has made critiques of science and rationality in the past because its symbolic and does not represent the truth - which fine thats right. Yet this symbolic delusion created a symbolic concept called chemistry, which created psychedelics, which wakes you the fuck up! How is that possible? Is it science doing it? Is it meditation doing it? Is the illusion doing it? Whats going on here?

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@SamueLSD I think this question has some conflict of interest issues.

Yep Yeah definitely, especially Nimbin and Byron Bay. I saw an echidna crawl up to me while meditating in the bush a few days ago but didn't take a pic They are cute animals even if they are spiky. I find that meditation seems to attract animals. @bejapuskas definitely dude good point!

Yeah its not that I hate society, its more it just feels 'heavy'. For the past 2 years I've had to travel to china every 2 months for work, a poor part, and don't know what it is, but I just love how 'light' it feels. In my home country its highly developed, the roads are made with lots of material, paths made with lots of concrete, there's metal everywhere, everything is super complicated, its detached from nature. Society in general is very intellectual. In China lots of houses are small, made of bamboo, simple outside markets, emeshed with nature, etc. And life is very simple. I could get into systems thinking but the point is really to live simply and with nature. I totally appreciate how society has solved so many security and safety issues, I just wish there was a safe society that used a lot less resources, was way less complicated, and focused more on being in nature. In places like Kathmandu for example, when I last went there, lots of people were materialistic because they were poor and had not experienced how material possession will not help them. So lots of surivival issues there.@Preety_India Yep. It was more from learning from a sadhu, but definitely agree about location not mattering. nice you're ultimately right i think!

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Yeah you really just need to contemplate what an object is(like a coke bottle) and realize you can never get to the bottom of what it is(Nothingness). Same with the self. Creation seems to form and exist simply by not inspecting it. The coke bottle exists so long as you dont contemplate what it is. The false self exists so long as you dont contemplate what it is. @Nahm yes the only reason why I'm taking this question seriously is because I think its True. But what if the question itself is imaginary.

? Is meditation actually meditation, and what's the difference between meditation and Truth... Wait why did I think there was a difference? I forgot.. Wait a sec, whose meditating? Wait a sec, whose the one asking this question. ohhhhhh. That question is imaginary. Its not real. Wait a sec. Whats the difference between non duality and duality...

I created meditation to make me realize I created meditation?

@docs20 nope

But its not just 'hardness' that plays a role in whether we can eliminate meat. A large part of it is beliefs, ideologies and views of the people. Maybe its quite easy to eliminate meat from an economic and practical standpoint... but from the standpoint of christian beliefs(that animals are made from god to serve almighty humans) to rational science dogmas (of meat has vitamins that absolutely cannot be replaced with vegetables), it doesn't make sense to go to veganism, or its completely repulsive to do so, as it threatens the worldviews that we have and love to death. And in history, what's been harder to change? Economic systems or the worldviews of humans? Its always been the stubborn worldviews of the human race that has been the hard part. Its our attitudes, our views, our egos, our psychological and sociological development. Why focus so much on the economics when its not the problem? Maybe focusing on the economics is gaslighting?

awesome courage man! I dropped out of college too. Know how tough it can be and I went through that phasw too. Just wanted to say you'll get through it and good on you!

@andyjohnsonman its not the default setting of reality, that's why it seems that way.

What are your views of living by a life purpose that is risky in terms of jail and personal security? The mind has been trained to enter samadhi states with a few minutes of will. During the samadhi states, the life purpose that the You wants to do, the result that happens after really feeling what that life purpose is, is always the following: "LP: To lead people into adopting novel social systems that increase their wellbeing and creative potential." In other words, inventing or doing analysis on different types of social systems like capitalism, marxism, socialism, communism, etc. And then persuading or influencing people to adopt these social systems, for their own benefit. It could even be deploying a social system within a business for increasing the wellbeing, productivity or creative potential of the people within the business. But obviously this risks jail, and living a hairy life. What are your views of adopting life purposes that have significant risks?