electroBeam

what the fuck

But you are ending the partiality, which is death for all those partials. If you/I did mahasamadhi, I would be ending your life as Leo, and you would be ending my life as electroBeam. What I'm saying is, you're not just ending your life as Leo only, you're ending electroBeam's life and all other 7 billion people's life and all entities. Thats a fucken big step, from ego death to all egos in the universe death. You're taking responsibility of ego death for the entire universe. You're not leaving your body, that's just a story, what will actually literally happen is you will kill your mom. To merge with her. You will literally kill her. There was nothing wrong with that, just the possibility of having 7 billion ego deaths, as opposed to 1, shocked me. All simultaneously.

The intelligence of this dialogue isn't delusion.

Yep Real vs Imaginary = Form vs formlessness. But since we are talking, we need to start from somewhere. You are living in the US while I'm not, yet we are both in the same place(present moment) at the same time. Because US = Australia = Consciousness. Form = Formlessness.

I either don't agree with you (my mystical experiences contradict what you're saying) or we aren't communicating with each other properly. No other people are alive. You are alive. That's not duality talk, that's non duality talk. You are in the present moment, like me. Because me = you. Are you conscious that you are talking to yourself, and me = you? I'm fucken 100% away that when you reply to me, that's me. And if you suffer, that's me suffering. That's real. You're not imaginary. You're fucken real mate. When I see my mum, I don't just go "oh she's imaginary" "me and other people are a barrier" no she's not imaginary. Her story, body, and the idea that she is separate to me is imaginary, but she isnt! That's delusional mate. She is me, her soul = my soul. Its the same. But she acts different to me because she is in a different dimension to me or in a different life to me. Its me infused with a different filter. When I see an ant I don't just go oh that ant is imaginary. No I'm conscious that that ant = me. And if I step on it, I'm torturing myself. If you haven't had that mystical experience (not belief!) I don't know what to say. I can feel that ant suffer, and that ant IS ME! There is no evidence that the ant is experiencing walking on the ground, sure, and the idea that its feeling the ground and looking at the sky, etc. That is all delusion if you think you know that, sure BUT you can still feel the ant as you. You still intuitively feel is experiencing stuff. You can feel that the ant is partial you. And all partiality experience stuff and suffer. That's universal. You don't know what it is, that it experiences and feels, but you know it does. And you know its suffering. And you know that when you step on it, it suffers. You almost feel that you are living as the ant right now and suffering. I know you've said you can't feel suffering anymore, to be honest IDK what the fuck that state is, but a real mystical state is realising that while people are not separate from you, they are all living separate lives to you, but at the same time they are you. They are living in different dimensions or whatever. All simultaneously with you. Every person on this planet is you, is a different dimension of you(I don't have evidence of what that dimension is exactly, and its delusional to think so but i know from direct experience that every person is living a different dimension). You want to help me and all others on this forum right now because of that. That's how it definitely 100% works. Now if I end the dream, I'm ending me AS YOU TOO! That's fucken shocking. I'm ending all those dimensions of different permutations of me. That's what's shocking. That's why I was shocked. Because while your little self is not experiencing all of those different dimensions right now, you're just experiencing your 1 particular dimension, you would end the lives of all dimensions. I die, you die, when mahasamadhi happens... or that's what Leo was suggesting. I'm not saying its real, but the possibility was very shocking to me. It reminded me of the mystical experience of realising all people lives are in the present moment in front of you. A very strong sense of omnipresence. Like you, Phil/Nahm, are in the US, but you're actually in the present moment, and I have access to where you are right now, and everything about you(not to be creepy) because you're in the present moment. And likewise with the little self of me.

Relative to what you believe I guess. The idea of trying is scary. Maybe that's what's stopping it.

I could try that, but I have a very deep feeling that this is not a good idea. Maya is a massive house of cards, and doing that is like taking one of those cards out. You could be stuck in a parallel universe forever. Hallucinations are very real(relative to the physical world and maya). You need to take them very seriously. The universe at any moment, can switch from being whatever it is now, to something completely different. Its very easy to become schizophrenic.

@Leo GuraI wonder if this idea that you need 5 meo dmt to do all of this stuff, is itself imaginary. I've written of an experience I had in the past where I had a shroom trip (or at least a very deep mystical experience) just by very heavily concentrating on what shrooms are, and not eating them. That really showed me how flimsy rules like 'humans are incapable of these states of consciousness' or 'you need psychedelics for blablalba' really are.

Already got a question. What's the difference between telepathy and omnipresence?

I've heard Leo say in a comment ages ago (paraphrasing) that hyperdimensional aliens like dmt aliens are different to UFO type aliens. His assertion just reminded me of that statement, and I'm curious to know why that's the case. I don't see a clear distinction between a hyperdimensional realm and a 3D realm.

how do you know that alien you channelled, isn't the same alien that flew the spaceship saw in the phoenix lights? When you said channelling is different to UFOs, you were obviously implying that aliens that fly UFOs are different to aliens that are channelled.

Obviously I meant entities that are channelled vs entities that fly UFOs. Like the obvious answer might be: UFO aliens are in the 3 dimensional physical universe while channeled entities and dmt entities are in the hyperdimensional realm. But what's the real difference between 3D and X D (where X is a number larger than 3)? I don't know when I look at the universe, I don't see a 3D world, I see consciousness, and I'm finding it real hard to tell the difference between 3D and X D universes. Like a UFO flying entity is just as real as a dmt entity. So when you say a channeled entity is different to a UFO flying entity, how do you know the channeled entity isn't the same entity flying the UFO.

you mean UFOs are in the physical plane, and channeling UFOs is channeling in different dimensions/universes? I struggle to really see the line between what UFO type aliens are and what dmt machine elf type aliens are, and why they are different.

The fact that its taking an infinite amount of time to upload just shows how much infinity will be in the video

I think you are holding onto your bladder waay too long mate.

Your life and story and level of developme t not real so that's a self defeating q/red herring.

The video: "my God everything I taught in the past was completely wrong, all teachers are wrong, they're all illusions. Self-Love is imaginary, its not real. The world is actually a massive turtle floating in the void"

In the first sentence he says "one of the great challenges in this world, is knowing enough about a subject to think you're right, but not enough about the subject to know you're wrong" Lol did he just admit that western science is a devil corporation? Btw, that's the most honest, true thing I've ever heard him said. EDIT: he goes on (paraphrased) "the cool thing about an objective truth is, its true no matter what! How about that!" That's a great ad, really summarises well, very concisely, the mindset of a rationalist and what makes them tick.

What are the ways to supercharge and boost contemplation to the max? I've heard that buddhist had occult practices for concentration, anyone have any respurces for that? Anyone know highly effective concentration practices? I'm going deeper in my practices and am experiencing a 'block' to going deeper. I desire experiencing psychedelic level consciousness through meditation(because its more permanent).

I'm currently learning magick now as my currently practices aren't doing it for me. Would be curious to know if anyone else gets beyond self realisation with magick. Based on the reports I've read, magick just seems to produce convenient hallucinations.

Have a question around spiral dynamics and my life. For the past 3 months there's been a ridiculously strong desire to abandon society and live as minimally, as naturally, and as peacefully as possible. My dreamboard progressively changed from living in a house, to living in a tent, to living in a cave. The kitchen utensils change from some kitchen utensils to ancient utensils to good old wood fire and stick. My dreamboard changed from buying groceries from a shop, to having my own garden, to eating stuff directly from nature. My business changed from a successful, highly impactful business, to a lifestyle business, to no business at all, to meditating, contemplating all day and to using occult techniques to survive like changing body temp instead of blanket and occult techniques to reduce food consumption. My alarm clock on my phone changed to waking up when the sun rises and a sun dial. My bed changed from a normal bed, to a floor. About 2 months ago I started acting on these dream board ambitions. I bought very ancient kitchen utensils. I replaced my blender with pestle and mortar. My pots with ancient clay pots. Pans with ancient chinese pans, forks and knives with chopsticks. It doesnt make any sense logically why i did this. efficiency is suppose to be king, but I just love the simple life and I love the old way, it makes me feel good to feel the food i make on a deeper level, to touch the food. I get a whole array of feels from doing things from the ground that you dont get when you abstract it away with technology. I think the other reason I love using it is because I'm less attached to these utensils. The more manual, the less attached and need I have for external attachments. Started sleeping on the floor and taking cold showers. Felt great, felt like I was feeling the ground and going back to the origins of life. Started meditating and doing yoga much more. Reduced cravings of worldly desires, used less water, food, smaller house. Right now I'm living this life and absolutely love it. I feel like I finally found the life I was looking for and always was. The closer my life gets to being raw, simple, natural and meditative, the more I love it. It feels amazing to sleep on the earth, you feel like you are the earth every night, its paradise. My god damn passion isn't to be a fucken scientist! famous artist! soccer player! engineer! fucken spiritual guru! fucken business man! No! My passion is to feel the beautiful breeze on a winter night, and to feel how its the earth and to feel the earth and planet entirely, to feel the beautiful rocky surface of my pestle and mortar as I crush my grapes and strawberries. To feel how those rocks are the earth and to connect with the whole earth through feeling it. To feel the food from my garden enter the body and to feel the body's connection and integration with the soil and plants and whole earth. To feel every sensation of the earth, as if I was the earth, from feeling the wind, to the trickles of water, the heat gazing on it, feel the feelings of all of its plants and the entire ecology of it. To feel the love and connection with the soil and earth, like the earth is my womb. To feel the rocky surface of the ground as I sleep on it. To feel the beautiful, cold and natural water of my shower(and river in the future) touch the body making me feel as if the body is a part of the earth. To meditate and feel the omnipresence of imagination and what its made of, how it works, to feel the atmosphere of the surroundings, to feel bodily sensations to the fullest, to be God, just delve into being it. To feel its love, to know everything about it. To love it and be it. Thats my fucken passion! That's what I want to master! That's what I want to be world class at!(if I need to be world class at anything). That's all I want. Just that. And now im looking into having my own plants and finding a sustainable way to survive off the grid. After meditating for a while I realize that all suffering, big and small, can be healed just through awareness. You can heal sadness by placing awareness on it. All cravings and desires(not to offend the tantra boys on here, this is for me) are simply suffering, its wanting what you don't have. Be it sex, food, money, whatever. And I've really seen and accepted now that no desire will fulfill you. None. Totally accepted this to be the case. And I see now that the best way to fulfill your desire is to place awareness on it, till it dissolves, or till you realize you don't need it/already have it. And if you need extra ammo, love it. Love it to bits. Hug it and make it feel better. And I've totally seen now that for me(and me only) no type of life will ever truly fulfill me. Not a millionaire life, successful guru teacher life, none. It all suffers the same problem: you can't truly attain it. And I've fully seen now that I don't care about trying to attain it anymore. But I already know what will happen even if I do attain it. It will be a pot at the end of the rainbow. I'm just not interested anymore. I have a strong urge to let go of all attachments: food cravings, sex and everything in between. Let go of all career goals. At this point, unfortunately, there's no interest in helping the world or others. I wish there was, I really do. I tried Leo's life purpose course for 2 years intensely, doing it 100s of times to find that thing. But in the end, what I always wanted was to live in a cave and disconnect for a while. I hope that in the future I will find the desire or need to help others, but right now its solitary confinement and isolation in beautiful nature that I want. The prospect of leaving my country and living in the Himalayas is bearing on me. I don't know why, but have an urge to go there and live there for a while. Its not for enlightenment, more for the beautiful nature and connectedness. Also have an urge to learn offline yogic techniques and occult techniques. The question is, and I know ultimately no one will know more about what i should do than i, and im totally aware of that, but 1 question i have is, it feels like im trying to live a stage purple life, or regress to purple LOL. I am concerned that by going to the himalayas I will be choosing to live in a less developed society, that will prevent me from living a very simple, nature raw, meditative life. I will be too busy fending off thieves, negotiating with other people over land, being restricted and opressed by the society there. Stage purple of blue shit. At the same time, while i could technically save up to buy a big patch of land in my home country and live there off the grid, due to the himalaya's spiritual energy, it seems like a cool thing to experience. So I'm wondering what's your perspective from a spiral dynamics take on my plans for the future? Is this plan Ive got missing some key spiral dynamics understanding? I admittedly am not a student of spiral dynamics and havent really researched it beyond a few of Leo's vids, and am looking for some input from some spiral dynamics experts on here. Thanks for answering!

@Hello from Russia we've iterated through dozens of business models and product iterations. People understimate how challenging startups are

can attest to that. My startup has been running for 3 years now and 10 000 or more cold calls + hard iteration work and we still haven't got that sale yet.

this is where it gets excitingly mysterious, and futile to talk about because words get ridiculously inadequate. Despite that, you can deny its existence, because existence itself is unreal. God is prior to existence. Existence vs non existence is a construct and not absolute. Existence is dualistic so to speak. All along there was no form. Just formlessness. Just Godhead. Delusion is a strange loop.

@Meta-Man it doesn't spawn, it never spawned in the first place. The idea that it has spawned is itself a delusion. That's the trick.