electroBeam

Top values is relative construct. What you want... is what I want... which is what leo wants... which is what Trump wants... which is what your mum wants... which is what your friends want... which is what a bird wants... which is what a single cellular organism wants. What we all want(including you) is not an object, noun, thing, concept, layer of abstraction, liberation or freedom or all those silly spiritual concepts. What we all want can only be felt. But not spoken about or known or understood or dissected or broken down or reduced. But we all aren't wise enough to see that, so we break it down into lots of money, love, food... and even "truth". And saying "I'll probably change it later" is falling for that exact mistake. When Leo says you'll never discover truth unless its your top value, if he's speaking from wisdom(which maybe he's speaking from delusion IDK) what he's actually saying is you'll never get what you want unless you want the think that can only be felt but not labelled a word or concept...

@Leo Gura why should we believe you imaginary man?

The answers on here are weird as fuck, very indirect. I personally experience ego backlashes every week (so 1 week will be very very high levels of consciousness, godhead, etc and then the next week ill be extremely agitated like I've got a mental disorder). Its been like that for the past 3 to 4 years. If you're better then that, you're all good. You dont need to motivate yourself, the ego backlash will pass and you'll naturally go back to inquiry.

There's a teaching which says that no others exist. No others exist... yet isn't it a delight to talk to someone? No others exist... yet don't you feel love for them? No others exist... yet you sure want to help them. And if no others exist, it sort of implies that you have the monopoly on reality... because you know I AM GOD. So therefore I am the truth and everyone else is false. All those people are false while I am true. I must know more than them because I am God... But that doesn't really feel right does it? And is that really the perspective you want to adopt anyway? Its sort disconnecting, a lack of heart towards other beings. And besides if you have a monopoly on reality, because you're god, the only thing that exists, why can't you control the dream? If you truly do have a monopoly on truth, if you really are God, then go turn me into a lizard now Go make Trump disappear. Etc. But if you look closely, you can't really find evidence that these other beings don't exist. Rather what you *might* find, is each person might actually exist... but exist as a silhouette of a division of consciousness... as if the present moment is a broken glass panel. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Broken_glass.jpg And each person is a representation of a division. You can look at all of us, your mum, dad... are they really not existing? Or are they existing as just a segment or division of the present moment? And when the representation dies, maybe they just come back to you. Like they are a rubber band stretched out from that fragment aspect of yourself, and death is just cutting the band so they fling back to you. Is it really that bad if a loved one dies? Maybe you can actually feel more love for them when they do die because they merge with you lol. I don't know, I'm probably full of shit... but this perspective is definitely much nicer, because it gives you the freedom to know why you can't control the dream(because everyone, all of those segments of consciousness all take part in controlling the dream, not just the segment you're inhabiting), and why you feel love for others when apparently they don't exist. And why its possible to still learn from others even though they are you, and why its still ok to communicate with others. And it gives you a better understanding of the significance of getting along with others... maybe we are all just segments of consciousness communicating to each other. And it gives(not a lot tbh) a tiny bit of clarity of what happens when the mind and body dies... flinging back from wherever you are, right into the heart of that segment. Instead of I am god, maybe its we are god. And instead of it being I am the creator... maybe its we are the creator. If you really are the creator, then turn me into a lizard... of course you can't because all of the segments of the present moment are all taking a small part in the creation process... If you want to be the creator... as in you instead of us... then you need to communicate with all those segments and get them all synchronised so that we all create in synchrony... which is a pipe dream but nice to dream.

@zeroISinfinity ahh ok interesting. I don't feel like saying this shit when remembering, i only feel like saying it when I don't remember

@zeroISinfinity dont you get bored of saying the same boring shit over and over?

definitely not. Go ask them what happens after death, they all have an answer. None think they cease to exist. I remember my very unenlighted grandma use to tell me that I should never reincarnate into a fish in my next life (after showing me a documentary on fish conservation). My mum told me not to laugh at her when she's in heaven. No one actually believes you cease to exist, all of us have an intuition that its not true.

well right before posting that message to you, I had a thought of Leo, and Leo somehow showed me that all of us partial aspects (Nahm, electroBeam, our parents, etc) have free will, but our free wills are influencing each other. And Leo also showed me how the thought of Leo is no different to the physical manifestation of Leo.

Matt Kahn might not be awake to your standards, but he's got a lot of shit figured out. Psychedelics aren't a magic pill though. There are trillions out there who take psychedelics (probably 5 meo too) who dont know anything about Love or God. I know plenty of psychedelic enthusiasts who actually think that being one with the universe is a completely different place to sober. Like sober and that oneness are separate. And those are the most awake ones, the majority think that dmt machine elves run the universe. Buddhists might not know as much shit as you, but IMO buddhists are more spot on then alien and dmt machine elf enthusiasts, at least they cut through the ego story crap. That 'ego cutting' is really missing in psychedelic communities. They have loads of amazing experiences, yet are too immature to cut through the bullshit and see what the universe actually is. So if you want to make an accurate comparison between the 5-meo school(psychedelic community) and the buddhists, you need to more fairly weight the pros and cons of each. You aint awake if you've taken a trillion psychedelics either. Infact you're way less awake then a buddhist IME. If you can't see that there's no difference between oneness sober and oneness in a psychedelic, then you're way behind a buddhist and zen monks. Really, you can't say the 5 meo school is better then the Buddhists. The answer is both, and if it can't be both, then IMO the Buddhists are more effective.

actually, looking at it more closely, I don't think people are scared that they will die when the movie dies. I think they are scared about what the movie will play after this movie stops. If you go ask atheists what happens after death, they say just a black rectangle will occur (which is a little bit true). Go ask Christians and they say heaven and hell. Go ask Asian people and they say reincarnation. No one actually thinks they will stop after the movie stops. Or that they will cease to exist (except for a few esoteric western philosophers). Everyone knows the movie keeps playing after this movie stops. The question that everyone is worried about is, what will that next movie be, and whether they will like it.

We've demonised the Nazis as sort of a cultural norm. Its just indoctrinated into us to hate the nazis and to view that time in history as evil... not because we are thinking for ourselves and have deduced its evil, but because society has indoctrinated us into the idea that nazism is evil. Lots of people who agree that hitler was an asshole and that nazis are bad, actually have a nazi mindset. It takes a nazi mindset to vote for trump. Even though a lot (definitely not most lol) of trump supporters agree that nazis are evil. Also people with nazi mindsets are not evil, or bad. They are a lot of our parents. They just have a less expansive view of the world, that's it. Cave man mindset, animal mindset is waaay more evil then a nazi mindset. At least nazis cooperate with each other and care about their nazi tribe/country. Animals are even too evil to care about that.

@Meta-Man Yeah when mathematicians say that their class is highly abstract, what they are actually saying without admitting it is my class is highly "I don't know what the fuck im doing"ness

interesting thanks! I've been feeling lots of entities from lucid dreaming recently. Its like lucid dreaming summons ghosts in your house lol. Yep, that's great clarity thanks! Definitely all this paranormal stuff is a projection, but its very powerful types of projection. It does really fascinate and captivate you. Wait you know what an abstraction is? Abstraction IME is another word for "fuck you distinctions and knowledge and knowing".

What you worried these quotes are gonna kill ya?

perfect example for those who think waking up relates to growing up.

Gonna turn into this : Very inspiring place to be, thanks for sharing Resonate with this a lot, thanks for sharing! Even an allergic reaction to knowing what the universe is, having awakenings that you can wear as a badge of honour, trying to get more insights. Your video you sent me privately nailed it on the head in the first 2 minutes, couldn't believe it. And then Matt Kahn nails it on the head further with other videos like the respecting the shadow once. Thanks so much for introducing me to him, admittedly didn't take his teachings seriously in the past. +1 What makes it worse is 'the place' that all of our spiritual teachers are at sounds so good(a magical land with this cool thing called infinity, infinite love, strange loops, aliens or extra terrestrials, being a god, infinite happiness, freedom, liberation, on and on and on) and we try so hard to get there because we're such dedicated spiritual students... but you'll never get there, you'll never get all those things above, because all those things aren't pointing to different stuff, they are all pointing to the exact same thing, but calling it a different name. And the pointers really aren't pointing to that thing, they are a story just to motivate us to meditate. The actual thing has absolutely no relation to the pointers what so ever. The pointers were just there to burn us out and so we could realise they lied so we could forget the entire spiritual path and be happy with now. Your post gave me a lot of clarity, really enjoyed it! Definitely will be quietly following along.

Why is the hand the centre of attention? Why not make it your genitals. FYI this technique really boosts your sexual self esteem.

Necessity is the mother of all invention

“Good programmers metaphysicians write good code posts. Great programmers metaphysicians write no code posts. Zen programmers metaphysicians delete code posts.” ~ John Byrd

There's no you, wake up!

You are not going through an awakening, or changing. You are the awakening itself. You don't change at all. Completely changeless.

Even if you measured light one way, how do you know its the same speed during that one way?

that call's for you man not me

No shoulds or shouldn'ts, no will's or wonts includes shoulds and shouldn'ts, wills and wonts

Well you're from iceland where the average person is green, so you couldn't imagine it even without spirituality. Try getting your awakenings to somehow show you why hippies(green) are problems and will cause issues in the future(in 100 years or something). No amount of awakening will show you how yellow is important. Only study will. Green is much trickier then blue because green is extremely loving. Although blue is also very loving, just for their own race, yet its hard to imagine for us because we are millennials/gen zs