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This question relates to Leo's paradigm video. My question basically asks how you can tell whether or not you should question principle/rules and ideas, vs when you should believe them? The cool thing about human beings is that we have the ability to be able to record ideas and write them down, either on a piece of paper, or nowadays in a digital format. This gives the human race an amazing boost in potential, compared to other animals, because it means that we can learn from the mistakes of others. Someone can write down a set of principles; from and within mathematics and science for example, which others can follow. Or one can write down egoic traps in a spirituality book for others to avoid. BUT sometimes following these principles blindly can lead you astray. For example, just believing in certain scientific principles can leave you in a paradigm that is unable to experience the existential truth of reality. Or sometimes believing blindly in principles can prevent you from thinking outside the box, because it limits your way of thinking. So how does one differentiate between a principle/rule/warning that is genuine and is something that should

I had deep social anxiety in high school. Saw 4 different psychologists. No progress was made. Went and talked to a buddhist teacher at my university one day about it. Social Anxiety has decayed to almost nothing, and I'm even able to do pickup. What a coincidence. The thing with psychologists is that their studies only work for a certain amount of people(worked for 60% of people who tried it) and they very wrongly assume that the reason why it didn't work 100% is because of experimental error/randomness. This isn't the case, its actually because everyone is different. Their theories about how the brain works is severely limited and ironically bias. There are some cases where its useful to use a psychologist, but there are just as many cases for seeing a buddhist teacher/Christian priest/etc about the same issues.

Honestly in my experience, I find Buddhist teachers to be 10x more effective at helping you deal with problems then any psychologist suprisingly.

@Martin123 I'm willing to go through pain, but I see awareness as like an uncontrollable stream. If there is a lot of anxiety or resistance, no level of willpower will allow you to break through some hurdle, because willpower seems to be an illusion. I can't physically go and meet new people people of how insecure i feel. Like it physically, by the laws of metaphysics, can't happen. So that's why i feel stuck.

@retardedhorse1 or ive found a cure for it. Good luck sir in your resistance to gods will

@Martin123 good luck with not feeling like life is one big imaginary 2D game while on the path If you find a way let me know you npc

@Martin123 well if you get your leg chopped off, id rather be blissful then shoot myself in the foot with negative ideas about my leg being chopped off. But thats just me, maybe others are different. As you said depersonalization disorder is a requirement, so why not "just keep your leg attached"? Because you cant. Takes years to mend it back together. Ans choosing not to be blissful will only hurt you in the long run, in the same way it did to me. The only way to get over depersonalization disorder is to accept that you have depersonalization disorder, fully and wholly. Chasing doesnt work when we are talking about dropping beliefs. This is the only way out.

@Dodoster yeah it feels great, but then comes a vicious storm revealing the meaningless of the world. The world seems to work in yin yang, equally magnificent and horrible at the same time. Not that theres anything wrong with that. Yeah awareness is self aware, that is a well known fact. But that doesnt mean you are completely detached from the imagination in your head.

@Dodoster Is that truly me though? Are we something at all? Do we even need to be something? Maybe reality just flows without a 'me'

I'm not myself constantly. I constantly change depending on flow of awareness. Changing from 1 state to another. If I'm not myself during normal life, how the hell am I going to be myself during a time where time stops?

@retardedhorse1 What's so bad about depersonalization disorder? The only reason why depersonalize disorder is bad is because you are still attached to some beliefs, while being unattached to others. Learn to drop all of them. When spiritual teachers say that all of our suffering is caused by us, they arent being figurative, they are being literal. You don't have to be miserable just because you have depersonalization disorder. Being miserable is a choice you are making. You can have depersonalisation disorder, and still live a beautiful life. All of your worry about the world being meaningless is just a negative projection of your ego, it has no basis for existence whatsoever. EDIT: Just to make things clear, this isn't a spiritual response, this is me simply questioning your assumptions in your thread.

@100rockets How do you know a brain exists? If you haven't got any first hand experience of it? Enlightenment being a trick is just as likely as science being a trick of the 'mind' whatever the fuck 'mind' means.

Hi guys, I'm a very neurotic person. So I use a lot of shadow work to heal myself through neurosis I have. Though shadow work doesnt really work with me. Like Through shadow work I become aware of what is causing suffering; for example why not being with my ex is causing a lot of suffering -> because it makes me feel worthless, beneath her, and obviously the attachment to her causes problems. But how do you then get rid of the suffering? And be ok with feeling worthless, or somehow change feeling worthless? Thanks PEEPS

@username the latter. There would be no identification with the hopelessness feeling, when it comes up, it will fade into the background, in the same way things from the external world do.

life truly is meaningless, but we still have an innate desire to make ourselves happy, even if that seems impossible during a crisis like this.

Youre forgetting that enlightenment through meditation can yield the exact same results that you are articulating on with psychedelics. Going through the dark knight of the soul can also make you suicidal maybe. Its enlightenment thats the battle, not necessarily psychs.

I don't think there really is a definite answer as to whether or not someone should pursue enlightenment. I don't even think there's a definite answer to how to find happiness. All we can do is trust our inner voice, and hope that it's right. A lot of things can lead to sadness, sure someone on LSD might kill themselves, but in the end everyone dies anyway right? Nothing material exists for eternity.

Did anyone go through a process of deep lack of motivation due to a meditative insight/experience? Recently I went through a really depressed state, basically because I realised how out of align I really am with what my intuition is telling me to do(my intuition/inner muse is really loud). And that made me go through a really rough existential crisis where I kind of began to realise that success and dating is all an illusion that will not fulfil me because it will never become a reality. I'm finding it really tough to motivate myself because it honestly looks like everything I've been striving for has just been a dream, and always will be. Even if I do make heaps of money, money is a mental construct. Money doesn't exist in the present, or more accurately, the value of money doesn't. I don't know what to do. All I feel like doing is being in the present moment, and I can't find a way to get interested in 'the game' because it looks fake/not real. What would you do??

Both. Dating and success is an illusion and therefore i cannot achieve that reality. Ever. It will always be in my head and it will never leave it. I would love to say that I'm just disappointed about not getting women, but thats not the case. This has been going on for some time now. My intuition would tell me to just be present and to take things slowly at a reasonable pace, to be kind to everyone unconditionally, to volunteer at something for example,but my insecurities about success and dating would push me to be ultra neurotic, to try and make the world's best startup, and to date the greatest women. But deep down i always knew that this pursuit wouldn't fulfill me, and that it was just satisfying egoic problems i have had. This isnt the first time ive had an existential crisis involving the same problem, ive had at least 5 in the past. But this one is one that I cannot ignore anymore. I can keep chasing success and women, but the value of success(feeling successful, powerful, etc) is all in my head now, and when it is achieved it will still be in one's head. It never leaves your head. Its literally impossible to be success. I feel deeply dissatisfied with life, because of what these insecurities have done. And i really dont feel like going back to chasing. Maybe in the future but right now im jaded about it tbh. But i need to find a way to love the game again. Because i cannot just keep going like this. @Shin yeah definitely. I was being metaphorical about being a monk. I meant more like living a life that most people dont desire (non material). But this is just a reaction and phase im going through. Hopefully.

Not when being in alignment means turning into a monk

Whenever one feels that he/she is getting sucked into the memories, feelings and thoughts, its usually time to analyse them for what they really are. But the point of meditation, as you said, is not to over analyse the thoughts and feelings, its just to accept them in the present moment. If you aren't being sucked in, accept it. If you are, start coming back to reality.

idk what im going through lol.

@Peace and Love but whats the point of doing pickup if love is just something you cant control? There is literally no reason for it if that's the case. That's an entire industry down the drain.

@Meretagh Hey man, story sounds do similar to me. Be careful about saying that you aren't shy. Just because you can walk up and talk to someone, doesn't mean that you arent shy, it just means that you have the guts to push yourself out of your comfort zone. I was just like that in high school, still am to a degree, I couldn't communicate well with girls. I felt like i was boring them, talking about 'nice guy' stuff, etc. And i felt unattractive. And the thing is I was unattractive But not because there was inherently something wrong with me, but because what we believe about ourselves affects the way that we act. If you keep telling yourself that you are bad at communicating with girls, what thoughts are gonna pop up when you start talking with girls?(hint its in this paragraph). Do you see how that would affect the way you talk about girls? I had deep social anxiety, so I use to push myself into social situations that no one else would put themselves into, in a way of trying to liberate myself from the negative thoughts I had a bout myself. Did that help me much? Nope. Because being exposed to your fears, doesnt change the beliefs about you, if you dont work on them specifically. Whenever you start talking to girls, start believing that you are the greatest gift women could ever possibly find, because honestly while the law of attraction sounds airy fairy and lofty, theres some deep truth to it. Your not the problem, but your beliefs are.

If people didn't want a relationship organically, there would be no reason to fear not being in one. I'm not insecure about not playing tennis, because I naturally don't want to.