Sempiternity

Just to be clear, the term 'fat' was Leos description, not mine. I'd never describe anyone as fat. It's a derogatory term.

I can speak from personal experience. When I was Orange, all I cared about was sex, admiration and possessions. When I moved into Green, I was about community and healthy relationships. I was a well known performer. Was part of dozens of communities. Went to dozens of festivals every year. As I moved into Yellow on my way to Turquoise, I felt a pull to let go of everything. I gave up all my communities, all my friends. I became celibate. I gave up the desires for sex and relationships. I didn't have any need or desire for anything outside of myself. Everything being the same, it doesn't matter to me if I'm sitting in my room alone or at a festival. It's all reality/consciousness. I prefer to be alone, as I don't have to live up to societal norms. I like to talk about enlightenment, but almost no one else does. Most think it's crazy talk. So I'm now content and happy being alone. In fact, I want to remove myself from society all together. I'm working towards living in the mountains alone, to be with nature, practice enlightenment, and just Be without the distractions of Man. And to me, that sounds perfect.

I did a report awhile back. 4 days. Day 1: 10mg rectally =nothing, followed immediately by another 12mg=still nothing. Day 2: 20mg rectally=no effect at all, followed immediately by another 12mg=still nothing. Day 3: 18-20mg nasally =no effect. Day 4: 22mg nasally =severe panic attack, nothing other than that. So to me the panic attack is the barrier I'm trying to get over. I know its the key to the kingdom, pot of gold, the answers to everything all that, but doesn't do a lot of good if I can't get there if I'm fighting a panic attack when it kicks in. As far as I can tell I have two choices. Either find a way to go into the 5-MeO calm and peaceful, hence the Ayahuasca idea, or just do 30-40mg and hopefully go under before a panic attack has a chance to come on.

Anyone have personal experience of doing Ayahuasca and 5-MeO together, one after the other? Or have researched knowledge of effects of doing both medicines on the same night? I'm curious if they are complimentary to each other. Also if one would intensify the effects of the other? And if so, could the intensifying be bad, as in overdose or blackout with normal doses of both? I'm wondering how 5-MeO could alter a Ayahuasca experience. And if Ayahuasca could be a good Segway into doing 5-MeO? As I find Ayahuasca to be peaceful and 5-MeO to be frightening. Wondering if trying 5-Meo just after, or even during a Ayahuasca trip might be a good way to smoothly transition into a 5-MeO trip, coming from that peaceful bliss. Or again, would the two add upon each other to the point of it being too much? Also, for those that have done both, how do the two compare? I feel like I've 'gone there' with Ayahuasca , but not yet with 5-Meo, so don't necessarily have the experience to compare. *Direct experience responses please, not just opinions.

Thank you @outlandish! Great info. The reason I even ask, is I'm am very experienced with Ayahuasca. I find it to be gentle and blissful. But I have a lot of fear around 5-Meo, to the point of I just can't surrender to it. Tried a couple of times. It's a full on panic attack. So thought maybe a good time to take 5-MeO is right after a Aya ceremony, so I'm going into it already in that blissed out space. So could be better equipped to surrender. I think I've decided to try it two days after my upcoming 3 day Aya ceremony. It'll be out of my system, so no worries of mixing anything. But I'll still be in a state of bliss, so might be a good space for doing 5-MeO.

Thank you for the opinion. I understand the jumping to 'combining two psychedelics is bad'. But I've done quite a bit of research and seems it's a common practice to do both. Just wanted to see if there was any here with personal experience with it, or anyone who has done more research on the subject.

@Paul92 God created itself. It's a paradox. Leo talks about this at great length in his videos.

'Source is a formless all-knowing entity'. Take out the part about 'us'. We are it. There is no us. There is only God.

@theking00 Yes you do. You have a whole world out there. If you really wanted to be free from your Ego, you'd travel to a country that has 5-Meo. But your Ego is going to tell you that's too hard, and you can't do that. Leo said in his 5-Meo video, that there is nothing more important to your life. If you have to spend every last penny you have, with no safety net for the future, then do it. There is nothing, not shelter, not sex, not relationships, not jobs, nothing is more important to your life.

I find it curious you all are just chatting away, talking about yourselves, when the man who started this thread is now dead, and none of you could care less. Sorry to interrupt, please go on talking about yourselves.

So ..... Sharp is dead now then? Hasn't been online since yesterday, and was quite adamant about suicide, so seems he went thru with it. Born in 1960, so a pretty good run of 59 years. I've seen many people on this forum thru the years say they are going to commit suicide. Wonder how many actually went thru with it. Never any way of knowing. Now 'Sharp' is God realized, so yay.

Man you guys like to start shit. I started a dialog to assess it's validity. It was written only two days ago. It takes research to confirm, which is what I'm doing.

He himself refuted this? You have a link to the video?

Interesting. Thanks for the alternative perspective.

I think we’re finally seeing that the idea of a guru is fundamentally flawed. That role of guru doesn’t fit actual enlightenment and putting oneself in that position leads to corruption through ego. Enlightenment should never be about personalities or following someone else’s lead. It’s not something that can be taught, so why consider yourself a teacher if not because of ego?

@Highest I understand it's extremely hard to convey Truth/Nonduality thu language, which is inherently dualistic, but the opinion about Atheists above is dualistic views. Do you as God realize that any Atheist you encounter is just a dream character you dreamed up? Thus they never are doing or have ever done anything, as they don't actually exist. Only you, God, are dictating their thoughts. And it's all happening only within your direct experience, in this moment only. Is this the way you understand things to be true? To me (because I have not had an Awakening yet, still believe I'm human and everything is material and dualistic) it's all just concepts, because I have not experienced God in my direct experience (I realize that once awake I may/will realize it always as been in my direct experience). Just out of curiosity, have you fully experienced/awakened to being God/ Infinity/ the creator of universe and all of reality/the Truth of Truths, or is your views and shared wisdoms beliefs based on teachings?

@korbes I actually did a thread on this about a month ago. Went fairly indepth of my plans, and hoped it would inspire others that want solitude to do the work, could maybe get inspired. I figure with a combination of freezer foods, a packed refrigerator, dried meats, jars of dried fruits, dozens of jars of nuts, quinoa, rice, protein powder shakes, and a combination of small portions and fasting, I will easily be able to be out in the wilderness for over a month at a time. Then just drive back down to the nearest town to replenish supplies, fill up on gas, charge the batteries, get water and so on.

Are you willing to end your life? Willing to give up everything? Willing to give up everything you like, love and cherish most in your life? True enlightenment is suicide. It takes balls to do that. If you think you can answer yes to these, then by all means, go for it! Me, I'm building a fully self-contained mobile home. With 1000W solar panels, 5000W inverter and a separate alternator. All so I can live up in the mountains, far away from all distractions, for weeks or months at a time, so I can fully dedicate to full nonduel enlightenment. Yes one can do it anywhere at any time, but for me, I need to space and quiet.

I'd also note that 5-Meo-DMT is a naturally occurring chemical already produced in the 'brain'. So to have a God experience, you're just taking more than normally produced. Your whole 'reality' is produced by various chemicals in your 'brain'.

Bingo. Exactly. It's not about watching new videos every week like they are Saturday morning cartoons. He's already told us everything we need to self actualization, many times over, to the point of repeating himself. What's the point of continuing to make more videos if you all don't listen to the ones he does make.

This is an extremely Orange perspective. Not everything is about money and trying to get something for yourself. Leo is trying to Awaken people. He could easily charge thousands of dollars for his content, but he doesn't because, for him, that's not what it's about. It's about sharing what's he's discovered for himself, and through that sharing, hopefully others that are on a similar path can find their way too. If it's just entertainment for you, I pity you. For me, it's the greatest knowledge I've heard yet in my life. It's the clearest path to peace and freedom from ego, that I've ever heard.

@Leo Gura I know you've got so much video content to get thru. I remember you mentioning wanting to do a video on Evolution. Been dying to see your take on that.

It makes me sad that a forum for higher consciousness and enlightenment is full of so much bigotry.

Most likely a made up character in a book. Someone traveled to Egypt and other parts of the world, and saw how religion was used to control populations. Using fear to stop people from raping, murdering and stealing from each other. So they adopted the same system for their region, wrote a book, clamed it came from 'God' and it took off as a beliefs system that lasts till today. Tada!