Olaf

The easiest way to get into a social mood is just approaching a ton which means to attack. Playing defense won´t work, you have to be active and attack in life. If anything we learned from this fucking World championship in football was that Spain won, not because they scored so many times, but because they kept playing offense instead of defense. They kept trying to score. So the same I feel works in socialising. When you keep approaching you get into flow, you get out of your head and you literally see someone and boom, go for it. Instead of seeing someone and taking 10.000 hours before you know if you should talk or not and then she is already way too far. You have to fight yourself out of these excuses. Especially during day game, you see some girl that looks attractive, you go, you approach and that is all you do, you want to have as little time between seeing someone and approaching them. You have to almost fight yourself from getting lazy and finding excuses not to approach, see the opportunity right in front of you and go for it. Go go go! All gass no break.

@LordFallI am Harry fucking Potter, jezus christ and any other God complex I could think of. All of them!

I had the craziest night of my life!! but I am not gonna talk about it, hehe A magician never reveals its secrets.

@Ulax thank you

@LordFall yeah energy matters allot, when you feel out of flow state it kinda sucks. I think the intention should just be to chat and to get into flow state rather than to get a girlfriend. Like if you chat to get into flow state, you are gonna have fun and anyways if it then works out or not feels of little importance. Too much pressure on getting a number or getting a relationship or getting laid or whatever isn´t healthy. I think today I realised that when I was out approaching that I am literally like `oh cute girl, okay go` and then just directly approaching to get into state and 10 mins in the conversation you can be reminding yourself of like, oh yeah I could ask for a number of course. The less of a big deal it is, the better I think. If it is really a big deal, then it doesn´t work well. Even to chat should probably be not a big deal, like okay, girl, I want to talk to girl, go. I don´t think more should be going on in your head.

I am thinking about whether I have approach anxiety or if I have the wrong or too strong of an intention. For example, as a warm-up, I talk to some guys and don't really have approach anxiety. Then I am tricking my brain by approaching a woman in between what are supposed to be my warm-up sets. When I do that, I am more logical and come off as a bit more asexual, lol, but I am also not having almost any approach anxiety when doing it that way. That's compared to having this idea that I'm going to approach her and it's going to lead to something more, yada yada. I am putting it on a pedestal, like something must come out of it. Being outcome-focused is one thing, but it's more about intention. The intention is to have a longer conversation leading to something potentially more. Like, imagine opening someone with the intention of them becoming your next partner. That is kind of fucked up. It's probably coming off way too strong. So I'm thinking that maybe it's my intention more so than the approach anxiety. Meaning that my intention creates this pedestalisation, which leads to being nervous.

@Inliytened1 I think woman sleep with you, because they have 0 understanding of what you say, just like I have no clue what you are saying lol

@Inliytened1 it sounds like your suggesting rape. What the hell are you talking about man. Hahaha

@hundreth Yes I felt like dropping the magic too or doing it casually, I am a magician so it is anyways what I do, but I will still probably use it for groups especially groups of girls that are sitting at a bar or cafe. My vibe is really getting there and I might eventually drop all magic, but for now I might not be there yet. Thank you for sharing.

@Jirh appreciated!

@Inliytened1 I can't take you seriously after all you said lol

@Inliytened1 fuck you hehe

Okay I finally had my breakthrough in day game, holy fucking shit, can I curse on here? I went out with my wingmen and we killed it, murdered it, slaughtered it. Everything. All I was trying to do is just approach as much as possible and have a fun time, also challenging my wing to take action. I am gonna give you my daily report here, but this was from 2 hours, meaning this was only 2 hours, we went balls to the wall. If you ever consider day game, do it with a wing! Should have done this way earlier. He got two numbers of a 9 and an 8, I feel like a proud brother. Here is my daily report: Today I went to Utrecht, to meet my wingman, from Amersfoort. We had a good talk about approaching. First of all about magic etc. He said it would be a little difficult more during the day with magic, which is true. Then he talked and learned me his technique, which basically was to approach with hand towards her belly, standing in front of her. Then stop her, give her a compliment and after that an assumption, meaning "you seem like an intelligent person" or "you seem a bit extroverted" whatever. Just two after another or something. Anyways after enough talking we took action and we nailed it! So before I even met my wingman I warmed up a little bit, by saying hi to people asking for a place to eat. Then when we set down I tried to stop some people for a magic trick, they didn´t stop. So we went upstairs, there my wingman said, approach those girls working there. So I showed them a magic trick. I had this really good line "I need to practice my magic, you don´t have to pay me" which is an assumption they have from time to time. They really loved it and we had a little conversation after that. We went further and I tried to stop some walking people but got rejected. Then I decided to try out his approach. Now I might not really remember everything clearly, because we approached too many people. I approached someone, gave them a compliment and they walked away saying thank you, because I didn´t stop them with the hand. Then I told my wingman to approach a girl on the right who was smoking and standing still, that went quite well. I tried to go two girls sitting down and approached them, I did some magic for them, then I went to the toilet and introduced my wingman, later on my wingman told me that probably I should have kept talking and staying for a bit longer, because after I left the other girl wasn´t occupied, which makes sense. That was our first longer conversation, lasted around 10 mins, we walked further and started approaching more people, we walked mainly the main street aswell as the streets surrounding it. Very busy with many girls. In the beginning I was approaching a little more than my wingman, so I forced him to approach a bit more and at the end he was approaching more then I was. I walked through a small street, then we went to the church to rest a little bit and eventually walked further where I told him to approach a girl on the bridge and he seemed to open well, so I started to open another group sitting down, two girls sitting down, so we both were approaching him on the bridge and me some girls further sitting down, I did some magic for them and we had an allright vibe, I invited my wingman to join the conversation, it lasted like 8 mins and we both didn´t really had the courage to ask for a number yet, although I felt our vibe becoming much more in flow then before. We could more easily speak, but later on we get way more in flow. So we kept walking there are probably many more girls we approached that I simply can´t remember. But anyways we went to a street where some people were walking, I saw a girl on the left who I approached, I did a good hard stop with the hand and I gave her a ccompliment and asked where she is from etc. We had like a good little talk and I never went for the close, shit. Anyways, then we walked further and on the left of the shopping street I saw a beautiful girl, I was like, my wingman left, go! So he did and he kept talking forever hahaha, so I just started approaching some people on a square much further. He walked like 15 mins later back, I wanted to give him a high five, but that wasn´t smart as she could see it so I gave him a box instead. He killed it and got her number. She told him she doesn´t get approached ever, which is funny because she is really beautiful. Anyways, we kept going, now we both were in flow, then he approached two girls on a bike, so I kept walking and approached a big group of 7 girls who were sitting at the terrace, to perform some magic. I did do some magic for them and told them again that it was for practice. Then in the middle of the trick my wingman called where I was, but it wasn´t really disturbing. I think it went really well, although they were quite young so I didn´t wanted to risk it, after a 2 min convo when my wingman came, we both left and went walking around, we sat down for a little bit somewhere and then I saw a girl with red hair and red dress, I really liked how she looked so I approached her, with a hard stop and compliment, then asking for her name and we had a nice conversation. She really was feeling my vibe and I was standing not with my body fully faced to her, which I saw one of the instructors do. We talked about many things, I just kept yapping and the funny thing was that I was so much in flow, it wasn´t hard to yap, I didn´t let much moments for silence and I was focused on the vibe and emotion. This was my first time asking for a number after 10 mins, but she told me she had a boyfriend. I gave her a hand thanked her and moved on. My wingman said that conversation went really well, so that was good. Next up I saw some blonde girls sitting down at a terrace, so I showed them a trick. The funny thing was that the vibe was there from the beginning and just as my wingman said, I didn´t even had to do the trick, because the vibe was really there. So I did the trick super casually, then introduced my wingman and by far this conversation went the best for me, I started to be allot more charismatic, I saw the blonde girl wanting my attention and looking my way, she lived in Houston and went on vacation in Utrecht, but she is dutch. They both were dutch, I was calling them out for drinking coca cola on a terrace and making jokes about america, I asked her to talk in english and we both talked in english for fun. We were talking about cowboys and it was just a cool conversation. They were really enjoying the conversation aswell and I asked the blonde girl for her number, but she had a boyfriend, I didn´t feel rejected at all, we laughed and made some jokes and walked away feeling high, atleast me, my wingman was feeling a bit worse I think. Maybe I should have included him more. Then my wingman also told me I should have talked with the other girl more, because I was too focused on the hot blonde girl hahaha, which was true. I forgot literally all the rejections, because in between all these conversations there were woman who I approached that rejected me. I don´t even remember them. After this everything feels a bit more vague as I was getting tired aswell as the flow state was kind of wearing off. I did approach a woman who was eating fries, I said how is it? then we had a bit of conversation, she kinda looked concerned to me on her face so we talked a bit, but after 2 mins I decided she wasn't feeling comfortable or something so I went away. Next up inside the mall. I approached a few people sitting down, got rejected, but my wingman and I had much fun, he told me that he got harshly rejected by a 6, so I helped him feel a bit better and talking positivity into him. We walked around a bit further and then I saw him already talking to another girl so I did my own thing, I approached a couple of girls, but got rejected and then we both were a bit tired after all the heat and warmth. There might be more girls that I approached, definitely many more girls that I got rejected from who I didn't remember, but we had a good run. My wingman had 2 solid numbers of an 8 and a 9 and I had 0 numbers, but very long conversations and really more good flow then I ever had before, atleast during day game, I have had better night game. So biggest breakthroughs for me were the way to stop girls, secondly how important state and flow is and how being together helps you so much as you can challenge eachother, also when I see him do an approach, I am like, I can do that too and then I start to approach so you battle eachother in a good way, also when I say left, go. It works so well, for example one time my wingman said, go left, girl on phone. I got rejected as she was on the phone, although I got her to stop for a minute and I wouldn't have approached someone calling on the phone before, so he pushed me to go further, which was good and I pushed him aswell, we both had a big breakthrough. Also I realised magic works really well in bars and magic isn't really so necessary, just casually maybe still do it, but you don't have to do it almost, your energy is what matters, your state and vibe and boosting eachothers state, does wonders. I constantly was trying to get my wingman in a good state with talking positivity into him and my wingman also challenged me with approach, left or right. So together we go really well. It is funny, because you lose eachother constantly during game and then later find eachother back. Everytime my wingman approached it gave me extra motivation to don't be a bitch and approach myself. Also when you talk with eachother, which I did endlessly, just talk talk talk, then you get into a social state and it is much easier to open from there. To conclude: KILLER day! Day game is 10x easier with a wing! (the right wing) and we hammered for 2 hours and after that got tired lol. But we nailed it and what Owen says is very true, approach, don't have excuse making momentum, see opportunity either for yourself or your wing. Literally at the end we were seeing opportunity everywhere. When the beginning is rough. So how was today? 1000 out of 10 as Owen would say it, fuck the rejections, I don't even remember them literally, it were too many, but nobody cares.

at the end of the day we are all stupid monkeys

@Zenterus I didn´t know we had a Jesus on the forum

I feel like I am in a boys locker room

Lets all be respectful to each other, otherwise I will close or delete this topic

@Joseph Maynor I have been approached by woman a few times and none of them were attractive to me.

@manuel bon yes you don´t have to answer the question directly, I would just sit with it, maybe for even a month or longer, sit with the question and then decide your one path and keep going until you succeed at it. Like either I die or I make it happen. Maybe sounds extreme, but that is sometimes necessary and mean what you say, keeping your word, not for other people, but for yourself. The thing about success is that it starts off with beginner's luck, then goes down to the valley of despair, and that is when people give up. When things get stagnant and hard, only those who push through that period will end up succeeding, which might be another month another year or a few more years. That is why I say either I die or I succeed, because the time frame doesn´t matter, all that matters is that I succeed.

@Rishabh R thank you, appreciated

I am gonna share my heart on here. I want to be more vunerable. I feel that people open up when I do too and I just want to open up about my social life right now. When I think about my social life I feel pain, not because it is bad, but because I can see my potential. I can see where I can be versus where I am at now, which is in a way hopeful, but I am not statisfied with where I am socially speaking. I got a sneak peak into my potential, but not living the reality of it. Which does help with motivation compared to someone who doesn´t see any potential or think anything can grow. I think the pain is the pain of seeing potential, but not living up to that potential. Still I notice stupid things holding me back after all of this time, smaller things, bigger things and a part of me wants to go fuck it mode and the other part of me is more conservative and wants to hold on to certain stupid things. One day I might wake up thinking fuck it, who cares what anyone thinks, lets go! The other day I might be super self-conscious and feel the pain of not living up to my potential. It is like I have one foot on gass and another on break and from day to day I go from break to gass mode, which is much worse probably then going full break or full gass. I feel that the only way I could break this is make a commitment, is commiting to never go back, go full gass, no breaks. Let me know how you feel about this, thank you for listening <3

@enchanted yes I think sometimes I put too much pressure on myself, which leads to either rushing or stress. It is easy to judge yourself instead of seeing what you are doing right at times. Thank you for reminding me.

I think Natasha and Leo would be a more logical couple then Natasha and a stage orange dating coach

@Ulax sounds like a town slut problem hehe

I need your guys advice, I have a woman falling in love with me and she is a bit younger then me or actually allot, she is like 20, quite pretty, I am 27, I am allot more mature then her and honestly I don´t know if I like her. Like the last 2 days she really started to open up to me and be vulnerable, and I haven´t seen anyone open up to me like this since a long time, talking about her fears about her grandfather that died etc. And I don´t want to lie to her, I am honest to her and said that I am just getting to know her and that I can´t say if I like her romantically yet, but that there is potential. She says she feels safe enough to open her heart to me and that she is scared to love again, but she trusts me. And tells me to please not leave her. I don´t want to play her honestly, like she is a good girl, but I don´t know if you know love can still grow? Like maybe it still can come? I am waiting to fall in love, but maybe my mind thinks that I can get someone better and won't settle, it is weird like that. I am trying to prolong it, but also I feel when I prolong it too long I am making it painful for her. Love is complicated men. Maybe I am taking this all too seriously. I guess I just don't want to lie to her and I haven't lied to her yet, I never told her that I love her or whatever, I told her only that I see potential and would like to get to know her better, which is true.