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Vegan (except my friends homemade raw unfiltered honey) for like 4 months, before that was just standard american diet but I ate on the healthy side of it. Currently whole food, all homemade, no microwave, working on organic and self grown, especially with produce. Not sure if I'll be raw vegan or whole foods paul chek style in the future. Life purpose is about permaculture/agroforestry/biodynamic farming, which will apply either way.

I'm starting with Paul Chek, I ordered his book. Then Dr. Robert Morse I've watched both of their videos.

About people going from materialistic paradigm straight to psychedelics v. with prior meditation? I don't remember this being in the book help its long and hard to remember. which part? if that's what you meant

This is a cult now

it sucks that their is an astronomical amount of information on this thread and I have no clue what is true. For all I know the germ theory of dis-ease is bonk, or perhaps vaccines are very very rarely harmful and any future one would be safe af. I guess it's just not worth the years of research to find out rn lol.

I tried doing a bunch of research but what worked best for me was to go to the store and buy and bunch of seeds and plants, and then to plant them, and then to eat them. After doing this you can learn about more. If you want to grow in a crate, get a grow crate, put dirt in it, and them put seeds in it. just an idea but I'm interested to hear other answers.

if you say 4/24/2020 it sounds like 420 420 20. I think its time you use some cannabis.

Let's start a list of places and organizations and ways to do meditation retreats, so that the aspiring sage can scroll through his or her options. I'll go -Dhamma.org has wonderful vipassana meditation retreats all around the world, I intend to go to one this next summer now that I'm 18. That's one downside, they reject you if you're younger (at least in Wisconsin). These are donation based, and so always affordable. This is your standard 10 day vipassana retreat. -Sat yoga institute. This place, run by Shunyamurti, has retreats and is open to volunteers. I applied to volunteer. -Camping. Yes. National parks. Siberia. Whatever you like. -Renting a place. Many options. This thread is also designed to help answer my dilemma seen here

beautiful

Goddammit I am not playing spot the difference!

yea I'd bet my life on 19

I agree! this keeps me from getting the most of the forum, really connecting with anyone with similar interests. Some kind of video chat thing would be interesting! Maybe its like forums topics but you join a video call to discuss rather than chats. People in the call leave notes so people can read them like reading a forum, and decide to join. Leo get your programming skills together and get on this!

I got 19!

I GOT THE SAME FUCKING ANSWER. It doesn't matter which direction you go, but how you do it, and inner evolution.

It probably took you to a state of consciousness that was completely new to you, and so you won't be able to remember it. The more you get into that state of consciousness, the better you will be able to remember it. This idea I got from Christopher Bache in "LSD and the mind of the universie". If you lower your dose and move up gradually it won't be such a foreign state. At the same time, I reckon there are things that we could not possibly conjure up a memory of in our waking sober consciousness. The brain structure and the state of consciousness and in such a different configuration sober that you can't remember, because remembering is conjuring up an image of some sort in your mind.

This explains everything that's been seeming off for a few months. This is what I've implied but i see now.

me the other day. it's sad, he was the first personal development person I found.

I went into being very worried about my future, with this situation and the unpredictability. It wasn't terrifying but I was very actively thinking about it and worrying. Then I realized I was going down a stupid rabbit hole, and I started asking, why is this all here? Why is there anything? and after about 10 minutes I entered some very nice state of consciousness with absolutely no suffering where I just loved all phenomenon and had nothing to worry about regarding the covid19 thing.

Ken Wilber talked about exactly this on his youtube channel. In this case, someone could act like they are green, hold green values, but really be blue. They will enact green but be at blue cognitively. Also what Leo said. I don't think there's a contradiction.

@Ya know thanks so much for that link

great to do before a psychedelic session. I find these really hard, but very effective.

@Patrick_9931 Have you gone on a meditation retreat? I know you didn't mention becoming a monk but spending some time in a retreat is a great way to demolish all your fantasies about what will happen if you pursue enlightenment. I'm in a similar situation to you. Thanks for sharing! @Leo Gura Well put. Very helpful. Thanks

There are so many books to read! I'm in the same situation and a huge portion of my time goes to 1 books 2 walks/biking in nature. Great job doing the enlightenment work at your age! no need to be perfect at this time.

I remember one time Leo said something about if you think you're going to get enlightened working at McDonalds it won't work. You won't be able to once you raise your consciousness. I started working at doordash about a month ago, where I delivered food to people from restaurants. It was great, because I was making a solid $20 an hour, much more than previous $7 to $9 jobs, and could listen to whatever in my car, and learn. I became vegan two monthsish ago, and although I may not do this forever, I don't plan on going back to factory farmed or inhumanely raised animals. At first I justified Doordash because I am just the deliverer, not the preparer or eater of the food. At one point I had a dream that there was a vegan doordash, but alas, there is not. Today I was thinking about it, and I broke down crying for a while, and I realized I cannot do this. This is like someone against slavery getting a job working on a ship that transports slaves hundred of years ago. I am thinking about Uber, or maybe looking into some other creative way to make money. I just need to save up a decent amount so I can go on a good gap year before college starting next August. I was thinking about starting a thread asking, should I stop doing this when I'm questioning it? Now I know I am done and cannot do this, and I am wondering if I made the right decision, and if anyone could shine some light on what the hell is going on psychologically and spiritually, re: Leo's Mcdonalds idea.

But aren't there more conscious ways to do survival? I'm not talking about enlightenment v. survival., just conscious v. unconscious survival and what do you mean by the second part? what are the two plans, in what context?