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@winterknight My therapist gave me good insights, but the entire time I felt like he was trapped in ego... I feel like he needs to be on a spiritual path. Otherwise it's shallow, like it was with mine, with occasional gems but just because he has lots of psychology experience.

I had the same dilemma, one year older than you. I enrolled in Psychology, despite "fuck academia". It's not mutually exclusive! Yes you'll have less time but still as a student you have shittons if you organize your time right. I think everybody should experience the beauty of student life. No need for gap years... The vacation between HS and Uni is big enough.

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All I see in this book are arguments about the existence / non-existence of God. Triggered my belief system, funny hahaha! A bit of useful knowledge about epistemics and religious experience. Feels too much like mental masturbation. I chose this subject in uni, thinking it'd be different.

I use evernote for everything... It's searchable.

@Joseph Maynor But dude, who gives a fucking shit about ontological/cosmological arguments. Like what the fuck bro who fucking cares. Change my view please. I feel like I'm wasting my time doing useless study. it's not a philosophy of religion. It's debating existence of God.

Stanford ?

@Joseph Maynor I'll be your accountability partner. If you break it, send me cash. Deal? Jokes aside, it's actually useful. Even more is at stake. Or maybe punish yourself in another way. I should be doing that... @Joseph Maynor

@Joseph Maynor @Joseph Maynorp pls write a reply instead of editing, i almost missed it

@Rilles Epistemology, Leo said in one of his blueprints to read up on Quine. Quine doesn't write really comprehensible, at least for me. I want to learn about his model of knowledge.

@Nahm Thank you for the laugh

@Emerald Thank you for your lovely high school insight! The filter is strong ;). So can we say that reality is arational in your opinion? Why even bother labeling haha!

Rationality is the property of human beings. But, you can argue that there is no reality without perception, which means that it goes through the rational filter. Of course it's not an inherent quality to the object in it, but we can argue that nothing is inherent to an object.

@Adam M What is time? What is a waste of time? I'm a social being, and having philosophical discussions is really rewarding. Especially when they are concerned with metaphysics/epistemics. I wanted to understand why Leo claimed that 'reality is arational'. He replied, in the meantime I was trying to figure it out. Off to meditate.

Now I thought of an argument : objects blindly obey physical laws, not rationally, so we say that they are arational?

@Serotoninluv Yeah they do. But one guy who is a materialist told me that they are actually rational laws because materialism is essentially a monism so you don't have mind/body dualistic thinking. Or something like that,can't remember. But it was a solid argument.

@winterknight Dear winterknight, thank you very much for all the replies. This thread is a gem. I have more questions : I don't do self inquiry, but I meditate 45mins of shamatha-vipassana daily. I feel tangible progress, but can meditating alone bring awakening? What are the pros/cons od medit vs self inquiry? Also. I tried therapy, but my therapist seemed pretty unconscious, not on the spiritual path. Told me some good insights but still. How would you structure therapy? His idea was basically to have no structure, and just told me to speak about anything on my mind. How do you 'progress' this way? I think psychoanalysis should go a different way!

@Hellspeed Please elaborate

I seem to have trouble with this. Hoe can I connect with people I don't know yet? Which questions open the door? etc

@Serotoninluv. @FoxFoxFox Within the materialist paradigm - do objects submit to arational or rational physical laws? I can't seem to understand why it would be arational, except for the case when the person believes that the physical world exists independently.

Leo said in one of his vids 'reality is arational' but hasn't supported the claim. I'm trying to understand on a relative level, not the absolute. @FoxFoxFox

My friend and I are trying to logically prove materialism absurd. We're stuck at this point here.

@CreamCat Why change somebody's position anyways? ps were not convincing anybody into 'our' position. good advice anyways.

@outlandish no, we're talking about somebody openly claiming that mental states are physiological.

@Nahm 99.9999999999996% empty space. whaaaaaaaaaat what are the implications??????