Preety_India

What's dis-unconnected lol?

I am going to use Stage Umber as a model for my life.

This particular section is extremely toxic to women. If you are a woman, you are going to be having a hard time here simply reading the threads. A lot of woman hate and women are instantly targeted whenever they try to protest against it. I don't think it's going to be happening anytime soon here. I found the best option is to simply leave this section all together and not focus on the negativity toward women in this section. It's not going to change. I would just label it as "dump all your problems on women" section. And I guess it will stay that way for quite a while. I rarely come here now. I just ignore most threads here. There's no point in arguing because most people don't want to drop their views or accept what the other person is trying to say. It's like two walls talking to each other. It leads nowhere.

This is not an example of a progressive matriarchy. It's just some stage Red tribe setting their own rules for survival. Matriarchal societies won't look anything like this.

Deep house. Romantic. EDM.

Sometimes I like them using that language. I immediately know who to put on ignore. Makes it much easier. When we don't censor too much, the devil makes itself known as the devil is always in the details. When we censor too much, the devil has an easy escape.

So after 2 months(since July) of Contemplating the concept of stage Umber, I'm finally ready to integrate and implement it fully in my life. I have kinda got a grip on it finally. This is good. I have laid the foundation for my future development.

This post is dated 23 July. Today is September 9.

This means I have to keep regurgitating aspects of lower stages meanwhile still enjoying my position, freedom and privilege at stage Green. This will require a comprehensive study of lower stages to extract the good stuff. It's almost like extracting tea from leaves.

From now on, I will strictly follow stage Umber model in my life because it gives me multiple benefits not only in terms of survival but also the creative freedom and passion I experience at stage Green. All in one. Combo. This is a multidimensional model. And it takes multiple scenarios and dimensions of life into consideration.

Stage Umber. Stage Umber is collective stage that combines the good parts of Stage Red, stage Green, stage Orange and Blue. It's basically stage Green with combined benefits of Lower stages in it Because being excessive Green causes a bit of Orange shadow, so I decided to have a collective Stage that keeps the general sentiment and flavor of stage Green and removes shadow components of lower stages..

Stage Umber I invented this concept a few months ago. It's there somewhere in my old journals.

To me stage Green represents the Break Even point on Spiral Dynamics in terms of principles and value structure. I get to grow at stage Green without compromising survival. At higher stages my survival is compromised although I gain higher spiritual value. At higher stages you sort of bypass survival. Stage Blue survival is limited survival so it doesn't give me enough freedom and room to survive. Stage Green survival ensures equal survival for all. Lower stages not only do not help with survival but they do not allow for spiritual values to develop as the focus is too much on basic survival and competition. Basically your whole life at stage Blue is only spent in ensuring survival. That looks like slavery more than survival. Like wage slavery which is very common at stage Blue and religious slavery as well.. This is again a threat to emotional survival. Your needs, desires are unmet, unfulfilled at stage Blue. However whether it's physical survival, spiritual survival or emotional survival, all forms of survival have full freedom and coverage at hippie stage Green This is comfortable to me Because my emotional survival is respected and guaranteed at this stage. At higher stages however my emotional survival is again at threat from a value structure that opposes my core value of justice.. Justice is not considered too important at higher stages and is replaced with Forgiveness. This can immediately feel threatening to those who favor justice over forgiveness. So it's like spreading your wings further than you would prefer. Thus the Break even points in terms of principles, value structure and survival are all unanimously reached at Stage Green I'll call it the point of balance in terms of both survival and spiritual growth. Beyond stage Green there can be transcending of survival in higher stages which can be threatening. So I won't leapfrog to those places. Probably those are meant for Saints. I'm no Saint..

Doesn't matter whoever quotes. Red pill stuff will never help you in life. It's a justification for deep insecurity.

So I'll divide the Spiral Dynamics growth Timeline into 4 significant stages. This is in the context of moral principles. Stage Red Stage Blue Stage Green Stage Coral And I'll divide morality at each stage in following categories I created. Toxic morality Basic morality Organic morality Saintly morality From my observation of different societies at different stages of Spiral Dynamics, I'll say, Toxic morality belongs to Stage Red. Here it's survival of the fittest. Basic morality This is found at stage Blue. You're not allowed to murder someone, punishable offense. So basic security is guaranteed. However it could be a religious system that hates homosexuals. So anyone who does not comply with the system, no matter how non threatening is still considered worthless or looked at with contempt and treated badly. Marginal groups are threatened. You're a slave to the system. Slavery based morality So in a stage Blue religious system, a homosexual person will have no value. They could be stoned to death. This morality threatens the survival of anyone who dares to be different from standard protocol. This morality is still dangerous because it only affords basic protection to survival. It's like a coat that you buy that you can use in winter but if you went looking for timber out in the frigid cold, that coat won't be enough to protect you. Organic morality This is stage Green morality where even minorities, those who don't fit in, marginal groups don't feel threatened and the survival of everyone, both majority and marginal is ensured. However this morality is strict on karma. You get what you give. If you hit someone, there will be self defense. Stand your ground principle. So if you do wrong, you pay consequences for your actions. Stage Green morality is high on equality and justice. Which means you get treated equally in terms of your conduct. You do wrong, you pay for it. Justice delivered to every group. This principle is also seen in stage Green empathy based relationships where its give and take The empathy at stage Green is highest among lower stages yet this empathy has an upper cap. This empathy is conditional and the morality is conditional as well. So in a stage Green relationship, both partners are expected to show equal love and devotion and loyalty to each other. At stage Green you can't show compassion to oppressors and criminals. Saintly morality This is stage Coral. Here it's turn the other cheek. You show compassion even to criminals and dictators and oppressors. You empathize with a cheater in a relationship. There is no equality here, only saintly behavior. You give but do not expect. You treat both criminals and saints equally. The empathy here is not conditional. It's unconditional. Healthy form of morality according to me. For me healthy morality is Organic morality. That's why I'm stuck at stage Green and not transcending higher. Because...... Toxic morality threatens my survival Basic morality threatens my survival, not adequate protection Organic morality ensures and protects my survival Saintly morality is a direct threat to my survival, it means anybody can do what they want and I should still forgive. So the best suited morality which appears healthy and logical (but not overly logical or threatening to others) is Organic Morality. Zero narcissism based Morality. Zero domination. Full equality. Fairness Lower forms of morality, example Basic morality and Toxic morality are domination and narcissism based morality and are found in Patriarchal societies. Stage Green morality (my kind of morality) is Justice based.

Red pill nonsense. With that many hang ups around sex, how are you gonna find a relationship? In one sentence you judge a woman as unworthy because she has been sleeping around. But in the next sentence you say a serious guy will pump and dump a woman. So you hold a woman to a higher standard but you don't apply the same standard to a man? If a woman is low value because she sleeps around... How is a man "serious" and "high value" if he just pumps and dumps? If you want loyalty from a woman, you're completely okay with a man not being loyal? Double standards

Use the motif. ?

Cool things.

Now it's time to move on with life. I was talking about getting my life together.. That's what I'm going to focus on.

Why judge someone for their sexual history? Sounds like being too judgemental. What a person does in a relationship is more relevant than what they did in the past. You have many insecurities to work through.

Great job.

Because my ex was a jerk.

to-my-15-year-old-self So happy singing toxicity-spectrum stage-umber premium-price 10-different-points recontextualization-and-complex-rearranging

I'm grateful to some people who helped me in my journey.. I would express my thanks to following women. Hulia, Gianna, Esilda, Emerald, mememe, Vzdoh, flying lotus, Ananta, Natasha, Loba, egoeimai.