Preety_India

Sadhguru is no God for someone to get his stamp of approval on psychedelics. Psychedelics help a lot with breakthroughs with consciousness. But it's not everyone's cup of tea. But there are tons of benefits to it

Maybe some people just aren't very comfortable with cold approaching and I can understand why. Sometimes it can be confused with sexual harassment and guys don't want that trouble. So they might be comfortable online because there is a chance to approach a lot of women without the fears of being reported or embarrassed in public and much better option for those who suffer social anxiety. In my personal experience, I found both online and offline dating to be useful. With online dating communication is much simpler and no waste of currency. Meeting someone offline means taking time out of your schedule to fix a date, traveling, expenses and the exhaustion of meeting several people. It's a lot of raw hard work. If you're physically active good for you, if you are a lazy cat like me, you would go online just for the time being before you're fully prepared to meet that person in real life. I had met my ex online. He was great but things didn't go well so I broke off. My current boyfriend I found at a meditation retreat and he is perfect. But I can't be biased against online dating because I'm not the type who wants the best of the best. I'm someone who can settle for the average as long as there is high compatibility and as long as I'm happy. I will strike out my other expectations. Maybe people who expect too much in a partner go looking out for them because they get too skeptical about an online profile. To me it's like do what best suits your needs and don't think that something is good or bad Who knows, you might get lucky and hit the jackpot online. Never be negative about an outcome There are always pros and cons to everything.

My inspiration, my gurus who influenced my spirituality. Joseph Murphy and Gerald Gardner

Could be phone TV usage. Excessive exposure. Strain Dehydration Sinus issues High blood pressure or sugar Lack of sunshine and fresh outdoors Body heat and heat around eyelids Computer strain Vitamin mineral deficiency Stress Loads of factors Try to see the causes either single or multiple. Get blood tests and routine body vitals tests done. Age is a factor Certain macular conditons. Check for specific eye conditions apart from general health evaluation.. Do not ignore blurry vision. Because there's always underlying health reasons If not then you are lucky. But still if it's caused just by exposure strain then use anti glare glasses and Turn off screen brightness And use less exposure devices

@Derek White I understand you are trying to use a more nuanced usage of the term "manipulation". You can use whatever non-conventional definition you want to create, yet don't be surprised if there is confusion - as is happening in this thread. . . . If we are having a discussion on domestic violence and my definition includes things like showering and cooking (violence against microorganisms) - it will cause confusion, because that's not what people mean by the term "domestic violence". We could have a conversation contemplating "what is manipulation?". We could have a conversation about the duality between "manipulation vs. non-manipulation". We could discuss degrees, interconnections and the deconstruction of the duality. That's a great discussion, yet not the context of this discussion, imo. Yes, there are grey areas, yet there is a general agreed-upon meaning of the word, as I cited from the dictionary above. In this context, bringing up nuances and subtle forms of "manipulation" is a distraction, misleading and can be used to justify and rationalize certain behaviors. For example, if I'm on a date with someone and she smiles at me, I might think "Ah ha, she is trying to manipulate me. It's ok if I do the same. I can lie about my job. It's all manipulation of each other". This is a sneaky way for the ego to obfurscate manipulation and rationalize/justify it's self-serving behavior at the expense of another. 18 hours ago, Derek White said: Idk what you mean by “energetic orientation”. I’m assuming it means mindset. I mean... ultimately it makes YOU feel good. But I get your point. I still disagree with it. Which leads me to my next point. This is hyper-focused on "me" and "you". That is certainly a dynamic. Yet there is a "higher" dynamic at play as well. An energetic orientation is not simply mindset. That is too far into a thinking rationality. Direct experience is more important that analysis. One way to think about it would be "calculating". A person is a hyper-self-serving orientation will be calculating during a date. For example, "Did she like what I said? Is she showing interest, or am I losing her? She twirled her hair, that's a sign I am moving forward. She said she like to travel, if I tell her I visited Europe, she will be impressed with me and think I am a world traveler. If I tell her I like her necklace, she might feel good and like me". That is a self-serving filter. That is one orientation. . . There is another orientation that is not calculating like this, yet based on your responses in this thread it doesn't seem like you have direct experience with this other orientation. You keep defaulting back to a "me" and "her" dynamic that is calculating to reach a self-serving objective. . . There is another orientation available. 18 hours ago, Derek White said: I think the right orientation or mindset should be transactional. If I’m not wrong you suggest a “grow with her” mindset. Well, “the grow with her” is also transactional because you’re expecting something of her. I think in terms of spectrums so all relations are transactions imo. Realistically the type of relationship you talk about requires a lot of transactions and most people don’t want those imo. That will contract a mind into a "me" and "her" transactional mindset. In SD, this would be considered Orange. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that, yet it will inherently have quite a bit of interpersonal conflict due to two separate people each focused on meeting their own needs. I've been in many of these relationships. There is nothing inherently wrong with it, yet when one gets into higher-level relationships, these orange-level dynamics are very unsatisfying. It would be like the difference between drinking pure mountain spring water or junky tap water. It is not about two separate people each growing. I said mutual learning, mutual growth, mutual support and mutual bonding. There is a mutual that is transcendent to the orange-level self-centered transactions. I'm not saying personal identities and desires are eliminated, I'm saying that a new mutual dynamic appears. Almost like a "third person" entering. There is "me", "you" and a mutual "us". Yet this "us" is not some line to help meet one's selfish needs. This essence of "us" is a tangible thing and ime is much higher essence/meaning/pleasure than orange-level "me / you" binary transactional interactions. And it's not even close. 18 hours ago, Derek White said: I think the main point we disagree on is whether relationships should be transactional. I think they should be, fair and implicitly so. I don’t understand how it can be otherwise. We are not disagreeing. I'm not saying relationships should be transactional or post-transactional. That would be like saying math should be algebra or calculus. It would be more accurate to say that there are different levels/maturity/depth/resonance within relationships. In terms of not understanding how it can be otherwise, I would say the biggest factors include prior programming from family and culture of what relationships "should be". As well, the re-enforcement of this programming through cyclical thought stories, rationalizing and defending the programming. To expand and deepen, a mind would need to let go of the attachment/identification of the programming. This isn't easy to do and is a luxury in a sense. Most people don't have this opportunity. They live their whole life immersed within prior programming and never transcend it. This is often due to survival needs. Not just the survival of the body, yet also survival of the self construct (which is mostly prior programming). Letting go of this and allowing space for expansion and growth can feel insecure and threatening to a self construct.

You really went to the deepest core of the issue. Great insight. I'll put this in my journal.

This sounds like a news blooper. Next thing... Nahm is caught snooping. I don't believe all kinds of stats. They are usually sensational and blown out of proportion. Just think logically. Do you think those 50% sampled actually admitted to snooping? Now who in their right mind would admit that. That's why it's called sneaking and sniffing and snooping and not "looking." Did you know they even hire private investigators just to make sure?

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I need a bowl of ice cream.. Lmao And I forgot coffee. Wish I had a fireplace. It's so cold here.

@Esoteric you are entitled to your opinions and so am I. If you think there is no distinction between black magic and white magic, well you are entitled to think that way but don't impose that on me. If I see distinction between black magic and white magic, I'm entitled to my distinctions. The argument between you and me is like the argument over tarot card reading. You might say that you don't believe in Tarot. I will say I do believe. Nobody can be right or wrong here. I don't do black magic. What I do can be considered as white magic by those who agree on the definition of white magic. Plus I have my own brand and my own methods of seeking spirituality under my witchcraft which I use for my personal spiritual growth. I am not harming anyone. Because my stuff has nothing to do with anyone. It's a personal practice, pretty much like Tarot Reading and Psychic Sciences. For some people this is superstition and they might call me an idiot but for me it's a boon to my life because I feel more connected to my inner self through my practice. I'm not wasting anymore time in this pointless debate of different perspectives. I got better things to do. So have a good day.

Lmao she gave me a wrong policy number

You have to understand that the field of occultism is extremely diverse just like the field of Buddhism or Christianity. The practice of a Jehovah's witness will be different from the practice of a Mormon although they come under the same umbrella. Same there are different types of Buddhists and their practices can vary depending on what school of thought they follow.. Same way Santeria is different from Voodoo which is different from Santa Muerte. There can be some similarities but you can't lump them into one. You have to belong to these different schools to know their differences before you can make broad statements simply based on cursory information you obtain. It's plain ignorance. This is like someone saying Judaism and Christianity is the same thing because they are Abrahamic religions. I don't follow Crowley's brand of occultism. My way is different. Do you even know that a witch may not even follow a coven and have her own brand of witchcraft completely different from existing brands. That's why Book of Shadows and Grimoires exist. Because a witch can write and invent her own ways of seeking the spiritual. The field of occultists is vastly ambiguous. People take advantage of this ambiguity and lump everyone in the same box because they don't care to do research. Maybe you don't like occultism and that is fine. But don't make serious accusations against others if you don't know exactly what they are doing in their life..

Black magic is a specific black art that deals with throwing and conjuring curses and ill will towards others in the form of rituals, practices, mantras, chants and objects that are cursed or belong to the deceased. Please read about it before you can pass judgment. I don't agree with this. Anyone who makes a hurtful post is just them being ignorant or hateful or whatever. But that's not black magic. By your definition every bully is a black magician. No I don't agree with that. That's the weirdest thing I have heard. We all have flaws. You me and everyone. Nobody is presenting themselves as holy. That doesn't make everyone black magicians. Black magic is a specific thing done by specific people with specific intentions. Yes there is. Who told you there is none. You need to educate yourself a little more. White magic is about law of attraction and energy spirituality. People want to attract positive energy in their lives by using crystals. It's a part of white magic. This has nothing to do with black magic. And white magic is all about great intentions. Although you can call it superstitious people believe in it and they are entitled to their beliefs. I don't agree with this at all. We all inflict pain sometimes intentionally out of Jealousy or whatever emotion or unintentionally. This has nothing to do with black magic again. If you are talking about me, I do witchcraft I know that there is a lot of negative connotation associated with it, and mostly because of black magic and stupid beliefs and rumors but true practitioners of witchcraft follow the tradition of Wicca started by Gerald Gardener and I come from his school of thinking because I follow Wicca in everyday life. It's called Magick and not magic when it's wicca. Wicca is a old British witchcraft tradition honored and carried on by Gerald Gardner and its about spirituality and a lot of it based on law of attraction. So please check your facts.

You're being evasive. If you had already explained your definition of manipulation you would have easily left a link to your post or copied it or quoted it. But you didn't. That's because you're trying to argue without content. You have nothing to say that's why the clever way of evading the question is to deflect and say that you already said it. I'm not even angry at you but you take it as anger. Because you are trying to simply deflect blame in various ways. You're not sure about what you want to say. Me having trauma has nothing to do with the question of manipulation. You're using the same strategy that SJWs use when asked about what is really offending them. They keep blaming, ad hominem attacks and beating around the bush but never have a counter point of argument. Can you see it? Chill. Nobody is getting at you. If you don't want me to reply to your comments, don't refer to me as well. Then I won't be inclined to reply. I tried scrolling through your posts and came across this and I guess this is what your definition of manipulation is Can't quote here so I'll just write "In the context of relationships, if someone lies or hides their true intentions then that would be too much manipulation. Wearing a little bit of makeup or learning how to talk properly is manipulation that is normal and acceptable." Learning how to talk properly is no manipulation at all. Nor is better clothing. Improving oneself to get a better chance in the dating market was never called manipulation... It's called self improvement. Manipulation is when you invent lies and stories and your intentions are hidden. So the other person has no idea what your actual plan is because you are not honest to them.. That's called manipulation.

There is nothing like vague and strict manipulation. Manipulation is bad in whatever form Care to explain what your definition of manipulation looks like how it is supposed to be good? Women don't like to bitch about them not getting approached in public because let's say they did, they would be called "victim playing" and what not. Sorry women can't be winners around misogynists. Women are not even supposed to approach men because if they do, they get called bimbos. So your comment on "dating is skewed against men" is totally thoughtless because men are totally free to approach. Nobody stops them. If they get rejected it's because they are not up to the mark in her eyes. Sorry but beggars can't be choosers. Wanna be a chooser? Then be someone who is admired by women. So no shortage of privileges for men when it comes to dating hence dating is in no way skewed for men because a wholesome man can have whichever woman he wants. He is an attraction magnet. Be careful about the word bitching. If you think that I'm bitching about my ex, then learn to be sensitive because I'm not bitching and neither is @Anna1 because as women we can relate to our experiences of getting manipulated in relationships and how it hurts. That's called venting out past trauma or hurt or bad experiences not bitching. Even men talk about their past experiences with narcissistic partners, Arcangelo had plenty of those, I don't berate him because his experiences are valid and they have as much right to vent and express as much as I do. That's not bitching. He or me are not bitching. Nobody is trying to play victim here, neither me or Anna nor Arcangelo. When you get victimized in a relationship out of manipulation or lack of judgment that's not called "playing victim" Stop with victim blaming.

I got played by my second ex to get into a relationship with him. I did not feel good. I felt horrible, duped and frankly traumatized. It took many months to get over it and during those months I cried every other night, sometimes at my own stupidity and sometimes the crying was out of anger directed at this person who had been manipulative with me. It hurt like hell. What I observed about manipulation is that the kind of guys who use it are extremely insecure and justify their insecurities. They usually can't get a girl because of their appearance or lack of skill, they lack humor or warmth to attract women and they have commitment issues because deep down they are losers who don't want any responsibility or accountability in life and they don't wish to achieve anything or they are to scared to be in a relationship because they feel they are losing something even when they are not or they feel they are missing out on another woman while being with one. But basically they are very commitment phobic. They know that a lot of women value commitment and so they choose to lie and manipulate to get their way and get the woman. It's like duping delight, an excitement for having deceived a naive person, the sense of ownership and control over someone they usually cannot get is tremendously satisfying for them. When asked if they would pay a prostitute for sex, they would not want that because there is no fun because there is no manipulation just a straight up transaction, they also do not like to be with someone who is equally manipulative because they don't derive happiness being with someone who they aren't fooling. There is a certain happiness they derive by duping and fooling and their deep insecurities actually fuel this need and their deficit and their entitlement (dating is skewed against men entitlement) makes them totally justify what they do. They accept this sadistic game as a way of life. If the woman cries, they come up with excuses to justify their behaviors to further manipulate her into their twisted fantasy of keeping her around and letting her get hurt even more. The feeling of her getting hurt only bolsters their confidence because they feel authoritative and self righteous and they believe that the woman is just supposed to suck it up because it's her fate. This is how manipulators are. They are cruel sick sociopaths who could care less who is getting hurt in their reckless game of trapping and hurting a person in the name of love. They are the worst types of narcissists and sadists whose way of showing love is actually hurting and exploiting another person's naive emotions and enjoy the control and power they get out of it. I myself suffered a lot because of it. One distinct characteristic I noticed with manipulative men is that they tell elaborate tales and stories about every detail in their life and usually all of these are lies. My ex used to tell me lots of stories about why I should not tell my parents about our relationship and how I should always hide it from others. I was slowly being brainwashed by him. He started manipulating me for sex. And if I denied, I was shamed. All of this came to an end one day when I was sick in the hospital and he never showed up and I realized he was not what he always tried to appear. He was a selfish manipulative deceitful sociopath who wanted only and only sex and nothing. But he was a coward so he couldn't say that because he knew I wanted a wonderful man and I wouldn't be with a man who only wants sex. So he had to manipulate me to get me in his life. Fast forward to now, I feel much better and confident and I'm better at spotting the manipulators. It's the same old cheesy lines, the same stories, the same red flags. So when I see it, I just give out a sarcastic laugh and turn that guy down. These manipulative men are hurtful and actually losers. Without all that manipulation they can never land a woman. It's similar to students cheating to get grades. Without cheating they will never get those grades. They are scum.

@Bill W looked it up. They're revenge voodoo dolls.. Revenge against an ex lover etc.

@Johnny5 I think you are hinting at nothingness

I don't know but this weird dream that I got. Like it was a floor, a fifth floor of a building. There are bats there. This guy is wearing an apron. He changes into anything. He has a weird crush on me. He tells me to get into an elevator. He traps me there. Now he is trying to torture me but in silly ways. Showing me some ugly stuff, just throwing this scalpel in my face. I'm pretending like it's all okay but waiting for the elevator to make it to the ground floor so I can escape. He wants me to be his Guinea pig for his experiments. He is into human experiments. Finally I reach the ground floor. And I'm out. But there are bats on the way and I'm flicking my hair and just feeling elated that I'm finally out. Once I get out I'm not even trying to look back. Who cares. Then I woke up from the dream.

So what's at the center of the onion after it has been peeled completely?

That doll got me cracked up. It's like an inflatable. I kinda believe in it. I practice witchcraft so I do come across references of people who do black magic as well. I don't like black magic. It's the abuse of spiritual powers. It's like the dark side of spirituality. The goal of spirituality is to foster peace and growth. It's like the concept of good spirits and evil spirits. I know it sounds irrational and absurd. But it is what it is.

I was a people pleaser before. I had low self esteem. Now I'm doing the same thing, trying to become arrogant. I'm trying to balance my goody two shoes attitude. Now I'm more like IDGAF. and people have started calling me arrogant. But I don't care. Because I can't please everyone at the same time. And I have realized that I'm not obligated to be in everyone's good graces. That realization made a huge difference. Now I'm like a free bird.

I had no idea what happened actually. I'm just trying to be ok

That's very difficult. You can't be truly free of your identity even if you wanted. You can simply call yourself a global citizen But there is a problem. If someone calls you an Indian, you're again reminded of your Indian identity. It's tough that way. Because you have to dissociate yourself from people's judgement. But people don't allow that. People like to categorize so it's bound to make you feel isolated or different. People are ignorant if they have to shame you for being different. You just have to let them go, forgive their ignorance and ignore them.