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I have struggled with this question for some time and I know that creativity exists on a grade or scale.. But these days I'm stumped asking myself this question regarding my creative talent or skill. I'm not sure if I'm creative or not. What do you guys think about me, especially those who have read my posts and journals. Do you find me creative? I'm sorry I'm putting you in such a tight spot but I had to let my self doubt out and let go the fear of "what people think." My brain always acts in a scattered pattern. I like assembling images. I have tried sketching and I'm kinda average at it, my mom has always praised my painting skills. I write a lot. I have always been a writer. Not the standard writer. But I'm obsessed with writing. I used to write tons and tons as a kid. Writing was my passion. Just about anything. I'd keep writing to no end. I find it difficult to type but that doesn't stop me from writing. My drawing teacher in school once said to me "you can become a great artist." I was thrilled at that point but something happened, I was forced by my parents to pursue a degree, I forgot what the teacher said, I got into stocks and trading for a while and started working on financial investments. It wasn't my purpose. I didn't like being around those people who constantly talked about money. I made money for some time as a trader and then I switched to an accounts job for a good 2 years until I got bored of it as well. I quit that job out of boredom. Now I work with an event management company. Do creative people constantly suffer boredom? Am I a creative person looking to settle for something and not finding it? These questions confuse me. I'm happy with my current job. But then again I don't know how long I'll stay with it. I have a very fleeting mind. Last 3 days my mind has been fixated on whether I'm creative enough or not? My family has been telling me to pursue what I used to be good at in school, writing, painting and all the related arts. Should I go back to creative pursuits? These doubts have hounded me. Any suggestions would be greatly helpful. I always felt like I wasn't creative enough. But this can also be my own low self esteem speaking. Maybe I'm good but I don't pursue because I think I'm not good enough?!

hahaha. It seems you been doing great since you joined the forum Have a great day.

First off, I wouldn't worry about how people view your creativity or if they think you are creative or not. If you worry about how people view it, it can alter your creative method and that isn't the point of it. Creativity has a certain function which is to bring out aspects of your own heart and soul into a tangible form. You had listed in another thread that you have a lot of different passions - my suggestion is to feel which ones give you the strongest sense of unique personal expression. You will feel it in between the heart and solar plexus - a sense of elation and freedom - it is this inspiration that is the window to the soul. No matter what you choose to do, move forward from that place and grow it like a plant that needs to be watered. That's the place that artists dip into and self consciousness or looking outward can damage that process. The benefits of cultivating and nurturing inspiration are that you will be closer to your intuition, your soul, God, it helps to clear bad karma and allows you to create a bridge to your higher self. Everyone's process on how to get there is individualized. I never thought of it this way. That's a beautiful perception you gave me.. I always thought of it as a raw skill, even the expression part. That's a wonderful way to put it. You're welcome, I borrow the insight from Sri Aurobindo and the Mother who have this to say on it: The psychic being is always there, but is not felt because it is covered up by the mind and vital; when it is no longer covered up, it is then said to be awake. When it is awake it begins to take hold of the rest of the being, to influence it and change it so that all may become the true expression of the inner soul. It is this change that is called the inner conversion. There can be no awakening without the psychic being. If you move in the direction of true inspiration then the raw skill will take care of itself over time. And not that much time, maybe two or three years if you practice for a few hours a day. The worry is part of the mind and (possibly, not 100 percent sure) vital - it is like an overlay that obstructs inspiration. So to grow artistically it is a mindset that has to be seen for what it is, kind of like a brick wall getting in the way of divine flow. This is great advice and I love Chakras. In the human being, is the psychic being the entire soul or do both the soul (in its essence as a divine spark in all creatures) and the psychic being exist together? The soul is the eternal essence at the centre of the psychic being. The soul is in fact like a divine spark which puts on many states of being of increasing density, down to the most material; it is inside the body, within the solar plexus, so to say. These states of being take form and develop, progress, become individualized and perfected in the course of many earthly lives and form the psychic being. When the psychic being is fully formed, it is aware of the consciousness of the soul and manifests it perfectly. I love them too! Creativity is unique in that it is an expression of your truest self and also in that the drive to create comes from the soul - so when creating consciously and from inspiration - just being in that space, is the nourishment. Grow it like a plant. Absolutely. Even though my raw skill is not that good, but I can hopefully nurture it along the way. It will improve, I wouldn't even stress about raw skill. If you have a passion for it you will most certainly grow. That's awesome. Again I never looked at it this way. Thanks for responding to my thread. This was some mind blowing way of changing my perspective towards art completely. And you're such a great artist yourself.. I love your artistic talent. So hearing from you is quite humbling. Thank you so much, that really really means a lot to me to hear that. I am so glad to have helped.

So, I had a huge breakthrough of self transparent honesty which was facilitated by two cups of coffee and then an hour run which cleared my mind and harmonized the brain like a psychedelic. (I did Breath of Fire into stomach the whole run, lol) Anyways, I realized after these four years of discovering Leo, I've literally done NOTHING with my life, haha. I feel like when I first discovered him and a bit now still that I'm his top %1 fans who see the rareness and immense value such a channel provides. However, there's only so much you can get through media and videos and forum browsing every second of the day. This is NOT high consciousness, this is procrastination after a year or two, really. I am taking a break to SOLIDIFY and REBUILD Orange. I hit green intellectually and at times Yellow, as well as MANY turquoise experiences, however my life still seems shitty because 1. Chemical/Lack of Oxygen (this I have covered now) 2. I lack discipline and follow through to do anything with my enlightenment experiences - realistically, if I don't change my foundation of Orange, NOW, I may never get enlightened, at ALL. I must embrace and push through. Essential New Habits: -30 Minutes of Exercise DAILY - Run, Pushups, Jumping Jacks -30 Minutes of Breathwork ONLY -No laptop, apps, YouTube, Porn, Forum. -Hyperbaric Oxygen Chamber and Iboga Retreat to Reset brain pre-addiction and make brain more cohesive with more oxygen. -Read ONLY Books from Leo's list - One a month. I've only read like 4-6 books and really some of them I never really finish cause my ADD, and lack of discipline. I won't get anything out of technology really, I have exceeded it's limits to help me - it's just entertainment rotting my brain to want pleasure and instant fixes. People talk about bullshit. Someone who writes a book has something to say. TRUTH. -Only take edibles in low doses if have trouble sleeping. No recreational use. -Read all the success books on Leo's booklist. NO MORE ENLIGHTENMENT books. I'm 22, god damn, I'll be a 40 year old virgin living in my parent's house if I don't wake the FUCK up. -Two 10 Day Meditation/Life Purpose Journal - I'll never become enlightened through peak states of weed and the such, another shadow of shaky Orange foundation which has breed the self-deception for years. -Oxygen flow is the best interconnected "pill" for me, for sure. -I don't need to see a technique in a video or for Leo to tell me to do something next for my life - that infinite procrastinating and chasing is over, with awareness gradually. RESEARCH AND EXPERIMENT MY SELF!!! Leo's last video gave me the final push to make this dream a reality. Really, that was the most profound and moving piece of art I have EVER seen. Makes me wonder if he's human or divinely gifted to be so curious and disciplined with life. Amen, Leo. Love, Yours Truly.

People are more likely to respond if you respond to them Like I responded to a bunch of your threads but there was no return response from you. That leaves the responding person confused. I felt like you're giving me a cold shoulder. So I was like, maybe you didn't like my response. I don't know, who am I to judge eh? So I just leave it..

I never thought of it this way. That's a beautiful perception you gave me.. I always thought of it as a raw skill, even the expression part. That's a wonderful way to put it. This is great advice and I love Chakras. Grow it like a plant. Absolutely. Even though my raw skill is not that good, but I can hopefully nurture it along the way. That's awesome. Again I never looked at it this way. Thanks for responding to my thread. This was some mind blowing way of changing my perspective towards art completely. And you're such a great artist yourself.. I love your artistic talent. So hearing from you is quite humbling.

I don't think SD only works on self love. It's a bunch of things. A lot of factors while determining SD A person's general intentions goals purpose They views on politics and the world Their relationship with nature and environment Their level of Openness to new ideas and thoughts or the lack thereof.. Their lifestyle and relationships Their capacity to either benefit themselves or society. Their psychological and emotional intelligence and level of empathy and maturity. Some people may lack self love and yet be at a higher or desirable level in SD

Skeeter Davis.. End of the world Why does the sun go on shining? Why does the sea rush to shore? Don't they know it's the end of the world? 'Cause you don't love me any more Why do the birds go on singing? Why do the stars glow above? Don't they know it's the end of the world? It ended when I lost your love I wake-up in the morning, and I wonder Why everything's the same as it was I can't understand, no, I can't understand How life goes on the way it does Why does my heart go on beating? Why do these eyes of mine cry? Don't they know it's the end of the world? It ended when you said, "Good-bye" Mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm (Why do these eyes of mine cry?) Mmm, mmm, mmm Don't they know it's the end of the world? It ended when you said, "Good-bye"

Thank you so much. That was a good one. You clarified a lot of my confusions.

@UnconsciousHuman I think at the end of the day, I'll need to experiment and explore it myself and find out. No point in asking.

It's anxiety. Do stress relief exercise

This is the guy that gives you the life purpose course. This is also the guy that gives you a lesson on spirituality and enlightenment. This is also the guy that shows you how to kiss your gf/bf. It's magic rolled into one human Lmao.

Nope. I didn't feel the need to feel good about myself.. There are other things that I can do to feel better. This question wasn't about that. I genuinely wanted to know if I was creative or not. I was very doubtful about it. Also it was more of a career based question. Because if I'm really creative, I can work in that direction and probably make something out of it. The reason I don't feel that I'm creative is because of low self esteem. This impacts almost every aspect of my life. So it could be that my low self esteem blocks me from understanding or acknowledging my true talents or creativity. Or it could be the opposite. That I'm not creative and I am simply thinking I might be. I was curious to know because others can know better. I can always say that I'm good at this or I'm good at that, but how can I be sure without feedback from others. Feedback from others especially honest feedback will help me understand if I'm simply trying to jump out of excitement or if I should really take my creativity seriously.. There's some motivation some incentive when people give honest feedback. (not lying or flattering lol, like you are amazing and all that, that's lying, that doesn't help). With feedback you get the incentive or a base to work from. Like a confirmation that somthing can be pursued in that direction, if not now at least something can be thought of for the future Conversely if I'm not creative, that is okay too, it means I shouldn't bother to put much effort in that direction or not expect much output out of myself. I can look for other opportunities where my skills are better used. I do understand the limitations of answering such a question because when people don't know you much, they can't tell for sure. Also nobody wants to appear mean or rude or negative. So everyone says yes yes yes. That sometimes can cause confusion. In such matters honesty is important.. You can always tell your child that he is best at his dancing skills. But only a competition can decide how far his skills are going to get him. Fake praise is like a disservice, a hindrance in disguise. That's why I was confused.

This video teaches a lot about why shaming people is so bad. I see a lot of shaming happening on the forum too. Like being shamed for not being high conscious or putting out high conscious content. One person acting superior to another. Covert ways of being negative to another person. It's just a way of convincing the ego that you're better than others and one way of doing this is to point out how bad or inferior others are. Constantly criticising instead of being positive. If the other person is not comfortable with your style, don't impose on them, don't make it sound like they are not taking positive criticism, they don't need your positive criticism because it's not helping them, on the other hand when a person who you really get along with tries to correct you and criticize you, it works really well because deep down you know they mean well and they understand you, so you have that trust in knowing that they are not trying to dissuade you in any way, but when you have a stranger telling you that you are not right, it's bound to create feelings of denial and shame and no amount of convincing will help you think that it's positive criticism, in such a case, it's best for that person to back off because they aren't serving any purpose but only bringing negativity. There's a distinct difference between a person trying to criticize you with the intent to help you versus a person whose only motivation seems to provoke you. Here is an example of how a conversation happens between two people and clues that help you understand the difference between an empathizer who is trying to criticize and someone who is only doing more damage than good. Person A You're an attention seeker. Person B No. I'm not an attention seeker. Person A You don't sing well. You do all this only for attention. (notice how person A is trying to act he knows everything about person B. Shamers always act like they know more or they know better) Person B But I'm not doing it for attention. I like singing.. I'm trying to be a good singer. Person A There are others who can do better than you. (Shamers use comparisons to justify their stance) Person B This is my genuine attempt to do something out of my life. What's your problem? If you don't like, that's your opinion. Person A You should not be selected into the band for singing. You don't deserve it. Person B Who are you to decide that. Why are you judging me? Person A Because I think you aren't good enough. Person B I have suffered so much in my life. I had so many problems. I have come so far. I have worked so hard. I remember last time I didn't sing well because I was really sick. Person A I don't care about that. Person B Wow. Then you shouldn't care about anything. Second conversation Person A I think you sing pretty good. But there are certain things that you can improve on. Person B Thanks for the compliment. I never really thought I could sing good. Person A Oh that was really good. Don't get me wrong. Person B Really? I'm pleasantly surprised. Person A That was great. But I still think that we can do better on it. It's really not up to the mark where we can finalize and get it to work. Person B What do you suggest? Person A You can work with our voice coach and he will really help you out. You can actually do better than this, trust me. Person B I have suffered so much in my life. I had so many problems. I have come so far. I have worked so hard. I remember last time I didn't sing well because I was really sick. Person A Oh, sorry to hear that. I completely empathize with you. I understand your struggles. And it's amazing how you are doing despite all the odds. You really have great potential. It's only some things that need to be fixed. Person B I'm sorry I couldn't give my best Person A You'll do really well if you work with the voice coach. Person B Sure. Notice the tone of person A in both conversations. The first conversation, person A comes across as a rude, bullying, shaming and insensitive bully who doesn't care about person B and the only objective seems to be to throw person B out of the band The second conversation, person A is not happy with the singing but approaches politely and offers solutions along with positive criticism and also empathizes with the personal situations and experiences of person B. You'll notice a few key differences with people who shame. ~ they already hold a bias or a negative assumption about you. Person A started the conversation by saying that person B is an attention seeker ~ they are persistent and don't stop despite repeated attempts to make them understand that they are being offensive ~ when they are told a story, they don't want to listen and very harshly convey a sentiment of insensitivity Words like "I don't know" "I don't care" or complete silence /ignoring the whole information as though they just didn't hear it ~ they don't offer solutions after criticising. Instead of solutions they offer elimination, Ostracization, omission, dismissal, decision, judgement and justification for elimination. They don't show that the person has a problem, rather they try to show that the person itself is the problem. There are very minor yet very impactful differences between positive criticism and shaming. Positive criticism is an effort to help the person. Whereas shaming is a way to get the person eliminated or hated on by others. Because the person who shames is holding an inherent bias. This is a good video that shows how shaming affects a person's will to grow and be positive in life.

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Lately I'm more interested in abstract art. I see spirituality in it. Raw spiritual expression coming to life The mixture of colors and patterns makes me feel like I'm in a different world. I am not really good at it but I'm trying to create better and better. This is one of the things I created.. Dont ask me what it means. It is what it is. A mixture of colors and strokes..

The art captured in this music and theme blows my mind

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Hi everyone, this a long one, with a lot said. I hope you can make out what I am trying to convey! Just to be up front, I also copied and cherry picked some really good quotes, or string of words from Leo’s most recent responses in the “I think Leo is triggering the insanity that is already within you” to help add to the context and flavour of my “What’s Next” topic that I am sharing with you here. What I am sharing is some of my own experiences and awakenings I had on DMT almost 1.5 years ago. It has taken a long time to put my experiences into meaningful words that make sense to me, and hopefully to some potential readers. I find writing down my experiences has really helped me process my understand of who I Am, which I find is always an ongoing experience and is always changing. So here goes! Before we get into Leo’s quotes, I will share a combination of experiences from several of my DMT trips. At the peak of one of my DMT trips, I experience nothing, I was nothing = consciousness. There was no Me. Then “I” (as in a thought “I”, for the sake of expressing the inexpressible) became aware of this huge limitless ocean of energy, no thoughts existed, just a sensation and texture of endless, boundless energy. Time did not exist. Eventually a thought transformed in, or from a Conscious? field of Energy. Once the thought appeared, a sudden orgasmic explosion of thoughts, ideas occurred out of the formless field of Energy (for lack of better words) which seemed to occurred from no-where. Love = consciousness “experienced” the All-That-Is, giving birth to everything, and everything was also imagined and was also nothing. (if that makes any sense) Am, became aware of an infinite space, followed by infinite Cosmoses within this infinite field of energy space, followed by our Universe, then galaxies, then Planets, Earth, Life on Earth, humans, Me, my family, friends, etc. I mean everything. But at the same time, Am was nothing within consciousness (difficulty to explain) No me, but everything at the same time. Everything seemed to be in a dream state. Eventually, “I”, not the Human Mind “I “, was in transition between the All-That-Is and my limited Human Mind. I felt Love, and at the same time felt alone. I was Love/awareness feeling the space of oneness, and at the same time I was this limited Human Mind with all these imagined experiences, and yet I was “Alone”, because I was aware of being “One” simultaneously. (Don't get hung-up on the "I" please, I don't know how else to discribe it) Thoughts were swirling around in this nebulous space of Love = consciousness = imagined Limited Human Mind. As I was slowly descending back into my Human Mind Consciousness, I started to question; Why should I bother returning to my imagined Human Mind and Body? Why “forget” most of who “I am”?...... I am One.... What’s the purpose of being a limited Human Mind and physical body? Everything is imagined, my family, friends, the pleasures and pains, the suffering and joys of duality are just a fabrication of the Mind, a huge infinite hologram imagined! It’s just a Dream! I tried several times to let my imagined limited human mind die, (an imagined psychological mind suicide, for lack of better words) to let it disappear into the empty canvas of nothingness = consciousness = Love, but to no avail. What I eventually realized is that there is no such thing as Life and Death, there is only a reduction or expansion of consciousness in Form and Formlessness, within the All-That-Is. Eventually I was aware of time, and I sensed consciousness slowly reduce its self to slip into a limited Human Mind, into the reality of form, and into my imagined body. (It seemed a long stretch of time had passed during the transition) It wasn’t until 5am (started around 9pm) when I was steady and conscious enough with the inner workings of my Mind and body connections, to be able to walk back to my room from the DMT ceremony. During the next several hours my mind swirled with thoughts, ideas and imaginations in what seemed to be a higher state of awareness. I was questioning; why am I here? What’s the point? I even imagined calling an imaginary taxi to pick me up from the imagined Ayahuasca center to take me to an imaginary desert, to bask in the imaginary sun and heat with my imaginary cold case of beer, and imagined the thought of “Just letting Go” of this imaginary dream. Expand to One! Expand to Love! Because it’s nothing but imagination, I can’t die! There is no death! There is no wife! There is no Earth! So why keep playing this imaginary game? I am One = Love = Consciousness = nothingness = Void! As I pondered my thoughts, ideas, imagination, it really started to sink-in what the implications of being an imaginary limited Mind, within a “one” conscious mind. It was mind boggling. I was playing with this realization, or awareness, for what seemed like a long time before falling asleep later in the day. I understood the basic theory of it from the Human Mind psychological state, before doing several trips on DMT, but to witness it play it’s self out on a canvas of consciousness = nothingness (for lack of better words) as; Love = Thoughts = Energy = consciousness = = = = was sobering but also surreal. “You don’t know, what you don’t know.” After experiencing Consciousness at a DMT level you start to become aware of the “Knowingness”, but you really won’t know the “dept” of “anything”! No One can Know the full depth of “Everything” and “Anything”, from the limited Human Conscious Mind. Agree or disagree, this is my Truth! For the Next year and a half, I have been contemplating thoughts from a Physical Body and Human Mind state, what am I? what I am suppose to do with this new awareness, new layer of consciousness, of Me, with my imaginary Human reality, within Love = Thoughts = Energy = consciousness = Nothingness = etc. Regardless of how hard I tried to imagine being absolute Consciousness, absolute Love, absolute All-That-Is, I kept returning to this imaginary human body awareness and Human Mind consciousness. I could not escape the limited mind consciousness of ideas, imaginations within imaginations, beliefs within beliefs, feelings within feelings etc. Every morning I would wake up from my dream sleep state and with some awareness I watched how effortlessly I slipped into my physical whole-body dream state. The transition from the sleep dream to physical dream is mind boggling and frustrating. It’s unbelievable how easy my mind consciousness slips into my perceived physical body and physical reality, but how difficult it is to reverse the sequence back to the sleep dream state, without falling into a sleep state. (if that makes any sense) The deeper I go, the more layers I find. Where do you stop? How far do you go? Having said that, let’s look at a few of Leo’s most recent thoughts, ideas, and beliefs he shared in the forum: As long as you are in this body, you will have biases and you will not be able to love totally. Life is about limitation and selective love. It's not about total love. I prefer the word imaginary. It's not a trap it is what is. That’s what Oneness is. It is a hallucination. And you are alone. enlightened masters still have biases. Maybe they don't have ego, but they still have a mind. And the mind is full of biases. Even the body is full of biases. ABSOLUTE LOVE -- free of all biases. But there is only one thing which is capable of ABSOLUTE LOVE -- a totally selfless being. And a totally selfless being must have absolutely no form or attachment of any kind. This cannot be accomplished in human form. It can only be accomplished by the purely formless Godhead A living being is incapable of perfect Love because a living being must be attached to survival in order to be alive. Only a non-living being is capable of perfect love, which means death. if you want true lack of all bias, that's called death. That's called God. That's called Infinity. And a human is part of Infinity but not the whole of Infinity. Try to love truly unconditionally. You'll find it impossible until you die and surrender absolutely all form. Formed love is limited, finite, and conditional. The highest love is a pure abstraction. Yet it's more real than all form. Within an Infinite Mind, abstraction comes prior to manifest reality. Abstraction is highest Perfection. You can be relatively selfless, but not absolutely selfless. Only the Godhead is absolutely selfless. Not living beings who must look out for their survival. To even compare your human organism's selflessness to the Godhead's selflessness is silly. You're infinitely far away. And that's okay because you are limited. Your body can't lift a 1000-pound stone and it cannot lift its analog of love for similar reasons. Thank you, Leo, these quotes are similar to many of my thoughts, ideas, and beliefs that I have contemplated and realized, but you are the Master when it comes to articulated thoughts and ideas, from the imagined Human Mind Consciousness, to Pen, to paper! So here we are! God-Head = Love = Consciousness = Nothingness = One = Zero, everything from that is Imagined and a dream, So what’s Next? What do I do with my imagined limited Self? What imagined self? What we? What I? What here? What purpose? What – What? What why? What do I do with my imaginary physical “self” Loop, that will have any useful meaning and purpose? What’s next, from the imagined Limited Human Mind form, which has been contemplative since my imaginary DMT experiences. Pondering this imagined, Limited Human Mind, atoms, molecules, organs, body, thoughts, ideas, imagination, beliefs, feelings emotions etc., with all it’s imagined mental, emotional, physical, spiritual, catalyst energy aspects that have been swimming in this imaginary reality, which is Nothingness = One consciousness. “Eventually I found my self deliberating, what’s next? at an imagined Spiritual intersection”. Do I just sit with Love = Consciousness = Nothingness = imaginary Dream = =?? and that’s It? Do I Let Go of this limited Human Mind and become absorbed (for lack of better words) with the absolute Love = Consciousness = Nothingness = imaginary Dream etc.? Do I explore the Limited Human Mind personality that I am imagining, and play with all my probable personalities, probable pasts and future self’s, play with conscious layers and awareness of form and Formlessness? Play with 4th, 5th and possible 6th dimensions and multidimensional realities from a conscious Physical reality state? Do I just allow my limited human mind and physical personality to become more and more awake and conscious of Love = Consciousness = Nothingness = One = Zero = Imagined = Dream =, and keep imagining my wife, my life, and play along with my imaginary physical reality until it’s time to leave it behind? Or, Do I do all of them simultaneously? Are there any other options? What’s Next? What’s Next after you are aware of Love = Consciousness = Nothingness = One = Zero = Imagined = Dream etc., and touched the depth of your imaginary “limited” human dream reality? Yes, I have moved beyond the spiritual intersection and chosen a few paths from an infinite variability of probable paths to explore and expand my awareness. Just to be clear! I am not interested in someone’s advice as to what path “I” should be taking, or if my thoughts, ideas and beliefs of reality, awareness, or consciousness are correct or flawed! What I’m really interested in; “has anyone else found them-“self” at this imagined Spiritual intersection from Leo’s forum and membership? If so! What’s your thoughts, ideas, and beliefs of What’s Next? What are your thoughts of Consciousness = Nothingness, from a Limited Human Mind Conscious state after you realized you are imagined within the All-That-Is? Is there a What’s Next? Or?

This is a very tricky topic. You shouldn't shame others. Completely fine. Agree. But you're also not supposed to react to those who shame you? That's like being a Saint. Turning the other cheek But most people won't hold up to that. You get treated how you treat others. If others treat you badly, they're not necessarily enemies but you are expected to react.. This is human nature and not divine, but human. It's great to love everyone. But reality doesn't work on this principle. Try loving someone who is shaming you. The real question is how fair is it to shame people for not being loving to those who hate them.

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I can relate

@Parththakkar12 it really helps me with understanding stage blue thinking.

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I rewarded myself with some ice-cream. Hehe. I had a good day and I did 1 hour 20 minutes meditation early morning. That was great. I can spearhead my self actualization from here..