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Then I don't know what he was talking about. Burning yourself alive is painful, but suffering because of it is optional.

Why would one self-immolate, if there is no future to protect or past to run from? How would one self-immolate, if there is no self or other to protect or defeat? While being mastery of pain, it is a failure at mastery of self.

You are conflating suffering with pain. Notice that you are never addicted in the present moment. You can only be addicted to something in relation to past or future. Getting caught up in thought-spirals fueled by imagination/memory is what constitutes ego=suffering=time. With enough mastery of the mind, there is even no pain. There is only intensity without a point of reference, which is ultimately meaningless. Loving yourself means to love yourself to death. To accept everything that occurs and surrender any meaning that drives time.

What we experience is irrelevant. You had an insight expressed in terms of something that you can understand. Work on understanding and embodying that insight.

If you decide on your dose recklessly, then what you get is exactly what is needed to put you back in your place.

I wanna disagree.

I never practiced astral projection, but it is supposedly possible to harm a person physically by harming their astral body.

That's a good way to put it. You can ease into presence this way, but ultimately, any notion of growth needs to be surrendered as well. I didn't mean to imply that I'm an expert on 5-MeO. I was making a point that everything takes skill, so does tripping. If your true, genuine, desire is to experience highest states of consciousness with psychedelic substances, then you will be guided that way. This does not imply that you should dive in blindly, on the contrary - you will feel the urge to study this topic thoroughly and it will not feel forced.

It is, but it's much more beta to get caught up in war in the first place. The greatest masters will hide in plain sight and look exactly like a nobody so that they can flourish.

Not making war A Taoist wouldn’t advise a ruler to use force of arms for conquest; that tactic backfires. Where the army marched grow thorns and thistles. After the war come the bad harvests. Good leaders prosper, that’s all, not presuming on victory. They prosper without boasting, or domineering, or arrogance, prosper because they can’t help it, prosper without violence. Things flourish then perish. Not the Way. What’s not the Way soon ends.

So it's wisdom or death then. Is it an 'or' though...

But Leo~! You said that thanks to this substance it may be possible for an advanced practitioner to heal cancer with his imagination! Wouldn't it also be possible for a bad trip to give cancer the same way?

If you gulped 5-MEO at a irresponsible rate, you would just pass out and retain no insights from it. It takes time to integrate the insights, just like it takes time to build up tolerance to go deeper. So, if your true desire is really to experience the highest states of consciousness possible, then the trade-off between "now" and "future" is not really there. To live in the now is not to throw your life away and act stupidly. It is precisely the opposite. The ones that live irresponsibly are the ones that cannot face the fear of death and live as if they were immortal. To truly be immortal is to embody death and trust the directionless present moment to provide the proper guidance now. It is an act of vulnerability.

Hmm, so you wanna convince me, an open-minded person, that I'm really close-minded? Alrighty. I will close myself down and insist that I'm open-minded just to prove that I'm really open to teaching.

Here's your open-minded person. Ta-daa!

No Joseph, find yourself your own teachers hahahaha.

Hahahaha, you should~! Open mindedness is a graceful gatekeeper to wisdom hahahaha.

Disclosing a potent unscheduled research chemical to the general public is quite a responsibility @Leo Gura. I can't wait to see how gracefully you are going to deal with it. You are not just going to say 'use it on your own accord', are you?

If anyone tells you fire is light, Pay no attention. When two thieves meet they need no introduction: They recognize each other without question.

Pffft... You're a saint!

I would suggest @Aakash that you open a journal as your thought-dumpster. You can delete it with just one click when you will finally get embarrassed by it.