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@Truth Addict I never denied the existence or importance of power, you missed the point of our previous conversation.

Spiritual bypassing. Tell that to the families of the ones that committed suicide because they did not understand the lesson. Not cool. Have you watched the video I posted in your journal? You have a massive shadow relating to authority.

But still, there are people like the tree of us for example that know exactly what it means. Why not being open and honest in this case? It's not about secrets, it's about being responsible.

You mean sorcerers, or moderators with gross power?

@Socrates @Truth Addict What if suffering is simply contraction leading to divergence from the present moment? It can be caused by pain, but it can also be caused by pleasure.

Of course there is. Words cannot teach the Truth, but they can delude the fuck out of people. Not because they are false, but because the ones that listen do not have the ears to hear. Yet. I am not making the case for keeping knowledge secret. I am making the case for teaching it responsibly. There are legitimate reasons for gun control laws.

Ohh, that's a good one. It tickles right where it's at. I never asked and was never asked. Honestly, I would be a little afraid of what I may do if I actually had the green power. I don't think that authority needs to be formally recognized. Doing moderation with words is waaay more fun. People actually have to consider what I'm saying instead of obeying out of fear. YES! Gosh you're awesome.

@mandyjw You just invalidated the reason why you started this conversation with me.

This picture is so awesome.

@Socrates @Truth Addict Do you make a distinction between pain as a sensation and suffering?

It is not the inconvenient truth of I/you/we, but a weaponization of spirituality for egoic purposes. I'm not above it all, I'm just tired of it and I'm going to call you out on it every time I see it. Because I care. That is a passive view of enlightenment, not active. Enlightenment is not a free pass to be irresponsible. That way of using spirituality is bypassing. The mind is not an enemy. It emerged for selfless reasons and runs rampant because of ignorance. Demonizing the mind is a free pass to be an idiot and a form of spiritual bypassing. The mind is a knife and it can do various things including cutting a toddler's face. Throwing the knife away is a mistake, it is enough when it cuts the right things in right ways. That is self-mastery. God is selfless and does not care about people, but people do. Over-emphasizing heart actually stunts your capacity to love because you lack understanding. You are severely lacking in compassion for a follower of love, or understanding of what spiritual knowledge is capable of. If you truly loved people like you love children, you would not be so keen to hand them knives that are able to cut their psyche. You would want to teach them to use them with proper supervision.

@mandyjw Calling projection cards to defend your irresponsibility. Spiritual bypassing 101.

@mandyjw You are such a hypocrite. Why don't you give a knife to your toddler to play with? By your logic, everything should be in the open because Jesus said so. Knives are useful, you know? It's just expansion of consciousness, it's for the greater good! Who knows what Chaos=Creation may bring when your child carves herself a bigger smile? When she heals from years of torment by her colleagues, she will be a wonderful, albeit a scarred, enlightened person!

Hmm... how about every single suicide case? Misunderstanding lessons of life and killing yourself out of ego backlash? How about religious zealotry? Killing people in the name of God? How is that not an ego backlash in reaction to lessons of other religions? How about non-dual keyboard jockeys that advise people to meditate in response to every single problem of their life? Shoving all reactionary suffering into one bag called 'massive ego backlash' is like equating gym exercise with being hit by a bus. THIS is a form of misunderstanding of spiritual truths. Misunderstanding that lacks compassion. Did you forget that Jesus did have disciples that taught others on his behalf?

Looks like identity is not just a name. There is some dirt on your shirt.

Remember what kind of person you were when you were 20 years younger, when you were 2. That is how naive you will seem to your 42 year old self that will still have at least 20 more years to live. Keep on fighting, give it everything you possibly can! At the very least, so that you will not blame yourself for not doing everything you possibly could. And remember: it takes as much strength to give up your dreams when they are not viable, as it takes to pursue them.

Have you even read my post? I am not objecting to the fact that you lead people, on the contrary! lol That just proves the point I was making, really.

@Spinoza At the very least, it is relative to the meaning of symbols '1', '+', '=' and '2'.

That's a half-truth, Leo. While your teaching does indeed say that we're all equal as God, you as the owner of this platform speak from position of power. You have exercised the privileges/responsibilities of this hierarchy on multiple occasions by calling people devils, or more recently by telling winterkinght off. I am not saying that this is wrong - I am saying that you are overlooking the importance of this fact. By denying your authority on spiritual matters you are being dishonest to yourself and to you audience, because why shouldn't they trust you? You spent your whole life trying to honestly figure stuff out and the knowledge you present is of good quality. If people are free to spend their lives however they want, why can't they choose to be followers of leaders they recognize to be good? Why do you deflect their trust and shift responsibility downwards? In my opinion, you are trying to be a leader without taking responsibilities of one. There is a reason why spiritual truths were kept secret and passed down lineages and this reason is not just selfishness. It is precisely to avoid the utopian idea that we're all equal in the relative domain and prevent dogmatic religions from being created. You can actually damage people by presenting them with knowledge that is too advanced relative to their level of development.

Aaaaand... I strained my neck during stretching today. Great!

@Truth Addict why didn't you pick on my original reply?

@Dwarniel Escapism? I don't see it that way. Escapism is when you are using spiritual truths to avoid facing problems of life. Is your problem a lack of money, or a lack of human connection? Seems like volunteering is a perfectly good way to solve the latter while focusing on things you find important.

@Truth Addict picking fights like there's no tomorrow hahaha.

Trump is the perfect person to teach the american audience all the ways in which the system can be played. That gives you a solid ground to elect a candidate that is high up the spiral. Very exciting. I was always wondering how is it possible to help traumatized adults in positions of power that will not admit their own problems. Is it okay to just say 'it can't be done'?