WaveInTheOcean

for some ppl, work-alcoholics and so on, for them doing something most ppl wouid find comfortable (such as ordering a pizza and watching a good movie a friday evening) may be the most uncomfortable thing for them to do, emotionally, cos they are addicted to work. So think more deeply about this issue, and realize that you should just always do what is most emotionally uncomfortable for YOU. You you you. There is no book in the universe that lists out what is comfortable and unconfomfortable to do.

so beautiful, so utterly moved by this dude

Good to hear meditation works! <3 Very good description, yes and yes, Love is obviously infinitely complex. That's probably the single most beautiful "thing" about it. ;D <3 when it reveals itself to you and you see the nuances and brilliancy and deep, deep intelligence behind this apparant complexity/chaos. it drives you to tears love <3

HAHAHA i love you man. <3 Yes Leo is an imaginary ego I project onto a screen. HAHAHAHA , im aware So yes. If God woke up/wakes up through just one imaginary ego, then that's enough in a sense. That's everyone waking up. LOL HAHAHA it's so funny and horrifying and just crazy amazing beautiful to consider things like this How did you awake, my friend? With or without psychdelics? Rolling on the floor in tears of bliss for hours, I did that too haha, and I feel like doing it right now. But gotta take a night run to stay healthy and fit in this imaginary projection of myself onto WaveOfTheOcean

Haha indeed And it now hits me that I sort of have wasted a few hours writing and correcting mistakes for this long post of absolute nonsense. Nonsense in the sense that I'm pretty sure my post can only be understood properly by people who already know they're God. LOL. You cannot make a blind man see colours by describing them. "Red is warm, green is hope, blue is cold" HAHAHA Haha anyway, it's fun anyway, and channeling these insights/wisdom into words helps me understand my own awakening even deeeeeeeper. love god love am i right <3

tripping on 2CB without having 2CB in your blood, sort of.

In actuality, all I just wanted to say was to point out that it is in fact possible to "re-program" "the ego" so it focuses less on surviving and more on merging with God ( = transcending/dissolving). This is in fact what awakening/enligthenment/spirituality is all about. And it surely ain't easy to do this re-programming, I admit that. I struggled for 5 years, or you could say for 25 years. I believe it starts with some good old love and then some psychedelics along the way (for most people). However, I'm fully aware that every unique imaginary soul has its own way of getting there. Most will probably only get it through actual solid biological death, which is perfectly fine. Everything is perfect. Love and blessings to you all <3 (In response to this part) : EDIT: And in a relative sense, I'm very aware that everything is not perfect. Not at all. And that's great (in a way, and of course tragic in another way, I can even cry over how sad it is). But it would be boring if everything -- relatively speaking -- were perfect. We have to get to work now. At least I have to get to work. Change the world. Awaken it. Love it. More conscious therapy. More love. Less suffering. I gotta meditate on where to start. I gotta find out how to love myself fully. There is infinite potential, infinite more insights to be gained, infinite more love to be had and given. Reality is after all absolute infinite, and I'm fully aware that enligthenment/awakening is a never-ending path where you can only go deeper. So make no mistake, Leo is prolly still more enlightened than me (or maybe not ) peace <3

What you call normal reality right now becomes Heaven when you wake up and see it is all your creation.

corona made him look like an idiot:-) now there is zero focus on that right now. good for trump Him now fighting the "violent" riots makes him look strong to those who already sympathize with him. Blacks were not gonna vote for him anyway, I guess, so maybe this ain't making him look so bad, as you and I think it makes him:) who knows

Anyone I thought about how all this perhaps could be orchestrated from the Trump gov or from Russia who wants US to keep electing a retarded pres.? Look at it this way: - election soon coming - Trump will do anything to get reelected - Russia prolly want Trump as well - imagine how easy it is for an outside gov/agency to get a cop to do something like this (for money) - imagine how easy it is for an outside gov/agency to get a few people/agents to do raiding and violence in the otherwise peaceful riots, making the whole riot go crazy (it only takes a few to start it), making Trump look like a good leader taking action. It also removes attention from Trump's corona Management. - This killing creates extreme division within the country. As long as Trump looks like a good responsible leader fighting the violent riots , it may be a good thing for him. Just saying

It's not about what you see on your trips / mystical experiences. That can all be interesting. However it's how your perception/consciousness changes that really matters. I didn't *see any God*. I became God, that is myself lol. My perception changed from that of a human ego to that of the Self. Everything is my doing. Everything is me. Take care <3

You have to differentiate between the idea of God and the actual direct experience of being God? talking about God to a person who has no direct experience of God is like talking about the colours of the rainbow to a blind person. ?❤️

@VeganAwake By the way, of course you are are partially right. In order to remember that you're God, you need to let go and transcend that ego / mind of yours, as you write. Yes, you have to make an "utter disidentification with the mind" before you can remember that you are God. But "utter disidentification with the mind" is not what enligthenment is. Not at all. It has nothing to with actual enligthenment. Instead, "utter disidentification with the mind" is just a necessary prerequisite before you can receive the actual gift of enligthenment, which is: remembering that you are God. Enlightenment in once sentence can really best be described as that: A remembering of the Self. (Self = God). Good fortune to you <3 EDIT: And in that way I really agree with @Leo Gura . Teachers who are so confused that they for instance claim that enligthenment = "utter disidentification with the mind" ----- as you put it, and obviously not a sentence you made up yourself hehe;) Not that any senctence I make is something WaveInTheOcean has made himself, either. Of course it is instead all God's creation, i.e. My creation! ----- are obviously far from enlightened. Only teachers who teach that enligthenment is a realization of the Self/God are actually enlightened. Or maybe there are just teachers who are aware of that, but who don't use these words, as they perhaps believe it won't help their students. Words are only words, of course. WHat matters is how you direct your students to realizing it themselves. And therefore it may be more beneficial to preach "disidentify with your mind if you want enligthenment" than "Realize you are God!", hehe ;).

This is a basic psychological question, which I will refrain from answering, cos I'm starting to get bored. I still love all your questions, keep em' coming. And maybe I'll answer your Q later, when I have time. Right now I don't have time. Got some friends coming over to chill. But I mean, you can study up on that. You don't need me to tell you why it's hard to change behaviour. Leo has TONS of material on this subject. Short neurological answer: Your brain has wired itself to how it thinks / has learned it is most optimal for it to survive. So everything you do is because of: survival. Until you see you're God; then you can do stuff that is not survival-based. =) What you unconsciously have learned to believe is optimal for survival may easily -- most of the time for most people unless they had godlike parents -- be not-optimal. Eating cheeseburgers all day may feel nice, cause you saw mom and dad do it. And it feels nice intially, and you have not learned delayed gratification/long-term-systems-thinking. So you easily become addicted and destroy your health. You want to stop - rationally - but your brain is so strongly wired to eat cheeseburgers all day that you can't snap out of it. The reason is that emotions are king. Accept your emotions. You can't think yourself out of it. Love yourself. Accept yourself. Then start working. One day at time. One cheeseburger each day less. Don't be harsh on yourself. Rome wasn't built on one day. It takes time for your neruons to re-wire themselves. Take it slow. Think long-term. Do something Good everyday for yourself. And then Rome will slowly, slowly start its manifestation. Seek out help. All self-damage, i.e. addictions are done by people who are empty inside. Not enough love in them. These people fucking need love. Give them love, don't be harsh, don't judge.. And they may change, slowly. Love yourself and everyone. "Actions have reactions, don't be quick to judge You may not know the hardships people don't speak of It's best to step back, and observe with couth For we all must meet our moment of truth "

<3 That is truly great yes. Keep running bro <3

A lot of dualistic confusion of the Absolute Nature of Reality (God) here. "Enlightenment is the complete and utter disidentification with the mind and its conditioned habitual patterns of thinking... it's a dropping of all preconceived concepts and beliefs which limit the ability to see things unconditionally for what they truly are. It's seeing the world with childlike eyes again before the conditioned ways of society alter your pure perception that you are born with." No, it is not that. Enligthenment is remembering you're God. That's it. And nothing more. :-) How well you, as an ego, -- past the peak mystical experiences of bathing in God -- then remember and integrate that 'insight/knowledge' into your life: well that's another thing. IMO, when you're running around "sober" and still seeing God in everything you do/that happens to you: then you're really enlightened/awake. That's where I am. And that's where your post screams that you are not. Sorry to be harsh <3 "The mind and the conditioned habitual patterns of thinking" are also God! They are not obstacles in any sense, only if you make them obstacles. Which you obviously do, hehe. The thinking mind is God! It's all One. You see? Nothing is not God, you fool "It's truly the end of suffering but for No One!!" . Also kind of wrong, my friend. Enlightenment is the end of suffering for You/God. Although if you don't ever reach enligthenment in your life, then that's only because You/God wanted to suffer. Hehe. Everything that happens = God's will. Everything = God This is what non-duality means. Very simple. Wake up, God. hehe <3

I was an hardcore atheist until at age of 20 tried 150 ug LSD which was a complete nightmare trip. The trip was "Good" in a sense however: It busted my little bubble of believing that I knew what was up and down in reality. The trip showed me that my perspective was just one perspective out of infinite other just as legit perspectives. However, now I see that there also is one perspective which is truer than all other, namely the perspective of God/Self/Consciousness, which is the perspective it took me 5 years to adopt (fully adopted it 3 days ago as already said). Anyway during these 5 years I have done meditation quite a lot. But never in any strictly sense. I have skipped many days and there have been weeks without any meditation. So by no means have meditation been a hardcore practice for me. But I have explored it quite a lot, different techniques and so on. ANd I have done it on / off. I have listened to Leo a lot for these 5 years. I have read The Book of Not Knowing by Ralston. Really recommend it. Brilliant book. I have read and listened to a lot of Alan Watts. He is my all-time favorite teacher. Rupert Spira I have listened to quite a lot too. I have been running on average 2 times a week for these 5 years. Around 7 km each run. I would in some way that my simple hobby of running has helped me a lot. Obviously health wise, but I also see running as a sort of meditation. Running meditaion. I fucking love running. The feeling after a good fast-paced 7-10 km run is just so nice. So calm inside. Runners high, you know. I have done LSD 5 times in total, ayahuasca 2 times. 2cb 7 times. DMT multiple times (smoked). All have helped. The single biggest teacher - besides Alan Watts - is no doubt psychedelics. Psychedelics have been absolutely instrumental. Without them I would still be an arrogant close-minded atheist, no doubt. It was also after my first LSD trip that I happened to stumble upon a Watts-talk. I remeber even back then how I thought he was nuts. Slowly I heard what he was saying, though. His talks are so deep if you really listen. Other practices include a suicidal depression 1 ½ year ago. I also don't think I could become enlightened without that one. Some hardcore suffering is necessary I believe, at least in some form/amount. The contrast of my happiness right now is infinite compared to winter 2019. Infinite contrast. I have also listened to a lot of music. I love music. Music is a drug for me as well. I have two expensive quality headphones I love:D Yes I love them. I'm attached to them. haha. Anyway, besides that, the biggest teacher may be life itself. I think I agree very much with Maslows idea of the hierarchy of needs; At the very to, over the pyramid, is hardcore spirituality, aka bathing in God-consciousness and living life as an ego that knows it's God. My point is, I believe you need to feel you belong, you need friends, you need intimate relationships, you need prestige and feelings of accomplishment, you need to self-actualize. You need to build a kind-of big ego -- it may still be a loving kind-of selfless ego you build, but none-the-less a big one -- in order to be able to let go and transcend it. If your ego is fundamentally unhappy, I think you'll have a hard time transcending it/letting it go. But who knows, maybe it is possible to transcend yourself while your ego is in suffering. Did not happen for me, though, although prior suffering was what I needed in order to later become happy. My "final" enligthenment 4 days ago happened at time where I had never been more happy already the last month. To now even feel more happy is beyond amazing. It's ectasy I'm living in right now. So yeah, go live life. Somewhere in the journey maybe throw all ideas of spirituality, Leo Gura, this forum and all kind of struggling for enlightenment out of the window -- momentarily -- and focus on yourself: standard self-development, building a life/persona you're happy about, have good friends, loving relationships with everyone, a job/study you love, have a nice home, a healthy body, a sharp mind, and accomplish something, be proud of yourself, be happy, be a good guy/girl, feel loved and love. Then next take shrooms, 2CB, 5-MeO or whatever, and then fucking transcend that ego: and remember that you are God and always have been! For example, during my depression 1 ½ years ago I gave a fuck about spirituality during these 2-3 months. When Leo uploaded a video during these months I watched a few minutes of it and disagreed with everything he said and got annoyed of him. A fucking freak, I thought. I then focused on myself, giving zero fucks about spirituality. Then slowly I felt better, and eventually became happy, even more happy than before my depression, and then I tried DMT, Aya, 2CB, and my interest for spirituality skyrocketed again, and of course all the prior years of spiritual seeking was not wasted. I built upon that. Of course along this journey I just outlined, psychedelics in the meanwhile will probably still be a good idea. Shadow work and self-knowledge etc. is great if you want to develop as a human being. Psychedelics are great teachers at that. Good fortune to you <3

For those of you interested in my journey I'd recommend reading my Ayahuasca trip report which I posted on this forum 2 weeks ago: I wrote that report ~10 days before my mentioned 2CB-trip. And the Ayahuasca-ceremonies happened ~9 months ago.

Ayahuasca and more psychedelic 2cb-trips. My last 2cb trip - this one - was the ultimate fear therapy conclusion. Seeing that I'm God and that all is God; How can I now fear anything at all? If fear ever arises again in some form, big or small -- it will, I'm still human within the dream -- I'll know its my own doing! I'll know it's all just me fearing myself! And that is profound, amazing and terrifying, haha! I'll thus naturally not resist any emotion, including fear, and thus there will be no problems within me, no conflict, no constant worrying, no constant attachment. ?❤️

Logic alone cannot lead you to enlightenment. Reality is logical-non-logical. Logic surely has its purpose, no doubt. I like being logical. But I'm aware of the limits of thought, language and logic. In a relative sense 'an apple' and 'no apple' are opposites. In an Absolute Sense, there is zero difference between the two. Yes, indeed, direct experience is needed. Good fortune to you ❤️

Sorry haha. It's good enough. I like piano. On a second listen it's kind of good actually. The visuals are neat. Jon Hopkins is just another level. Yeah it's more ambient, which is my favorite kind of music

One word: Ayahuasca (in a good setting with good people around). https://spiritofaya.com/ is great. I used them

mediocre music listen to this instead