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at least the normal girl doesn't look like an orangina bottle

gay men or fat girls who fall in love with me. so tiring.

You're not so bad Yup Yup

Ok, show me your girls then. Where are they? I don't actually know what your real iq is, of course. Just most of what you say is unintelligent.

I addressed this at the end with the scab example. It's not "just" a sexual need. I am agreeing with you that shame is involved. My only criticism is your false emphasis on prioritizing shame.

It's complicated. I see both sides. I personally believe men, women, and the whole world would be better off with strong sexual polarity: men being more masculine, women being more feminine. Androgyny is generally the result of unbalanced hormones (chemical warfare) and conformity (psychological warfare). For an honest evaluation of heterosexual dynamics in modern dating, it's not sufficient to merely categorize people in boxes of "masculine" and "feminine." We need to further distinguish "healthy masculine" vs "unhealthy masculine," and "healthy feminine" vs "unhealthy feminine." A quick rundown of each: Healthy masculine: Grounded, Certain, Driven, Unreactive, Proactive, Warm, Protective (of others), Self-Sufficient, Self-Same (Integrous) Unhealthy masculine: Selfish, Arrogant, Insensitive, Abrasive, Destructive, Cold, Defensive (of self), Isolated, Stubborn Healthy feminine: Dynamic, Spontaneous, Relaxed, Reactive, Supportive, Warm, Nurturing, Finds power and identity in community Unhealthy feminine: Uncontrolled, Hysterical, Passive, Gullible, Dependent, Needy, Leech, Feels helpless and lost in community Most modern men are a combination of unhealthy masculine + unhealthy feminine with almost no redeeming healthy traits. It's a total shit show, lol. Therefore we have guys like you and schizophonia telling men to "be more masculine" by which you guys really mean to say: "let's stop the unhealthy feminine behavior." Notice that the healthy masculine "cancels out" the unhealthy feminine behavior. So you guys have made the right call. Meanwhile we have people like Emerald telling men to "embrace their feminine" by which she really means to say: "let's stop the unhealthy masculine behavior" But the healthy feminine also "cancels out" the unhealthy masculine. So she too is making the right call. As a man who authentically feels masculine, I personally aim to be 95% healthy masculine, 5% healthy feminine, and 0% of either unhealthy side. This ratio is completely unique to you and nobody can answer for you how masculine or feminine you are meant to be. Rarely is anybody truly 50/50, remember what I said above about chemical and psychological warfare. Most humans are polarized in one direction or the other. But in any case, we all have the common goal of adopting healthier forms of masculinity and femininity respectively.

I think you're mostly right, but a caveat: It's incorrect to argue that shame is more fundamental than sexual need. You frame it as if the shame came first, and then the lack of women came second. That is not correct. The sexual need (more broadly, the need for physical connection with the feminine) most certainly came first, and when this was not received, a shame complex (negative emotion, overcompensation, denial) started to boil up like a scab over a wound. But make no mistake, the wound itself is feeling rejected (cut off) from the feminine, a physical event. The growing scab (shame) later manifests as ugly behavior: attempts to act overly masculine or to demonize inner feminine qualities. But if we grew up hugged and kissed and sucked and fucked by every girl we've ever crushed on, there would be no need to harbor overcompensation/denial patterns in the form of shame. But of course, life doesn't work like that. Rejection is inherent to this human life. The problem is twofold: 1) nobody ever taught us how to actually attract women. 2) nobody ever taught us how to embrace and move on from rejection. Notice that if I were born with 0 sexual needs, 0 desire to be close to women, women don't even cross my mind - in such an alternative world, there would be no shame complex for you to be observing from above. But overall you make a good point by bringing awareness to the big ugly scab. Once the scab has multiplied and crusted over, it becomes a sort of entity unto itself, and simply ripping it off and probing at the flesh wound over and over will never return the skin to normal. The scab needs attention of its own, mainly acceptance, until it naturally falls off by itself.

How would you know?

He has patreon donations and youtube ads on top of product sales

Finally finished the whole dialogue. I honestly got emotional near the end.

Not regularly. 5meo is the only psychedelic/drug that I have any interest left in

Yes, the AI did all of that with ease if you read the conversation

on the other side of that is absolute serenity and true masculine stillness

This is all I needed to hear

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In Leo's case I believe this is a genuine personality quirk and non-harmful. Can't really vouch for his copycat minions though. I've been in a similar position as this member before. I understand the appeal of high consciousness suicide out of genuine love. As a part of a human tribe, I'm supposed to act outraged and denounce something so "dangerous" but I am too conscious for that. Death = Love, and I mean that as literally as possible. At the same time, I love life. I love this human experience. I do not want to bring pain upon my (imaginary) family and friends, who are also me. So I choose to live. As does Leo, and most people who have stood at the edge of this cliff. We choose life out of love for all of this, not out of fear of loss or being outraged at oblivion. With high enough consciousness, it's inevitable that you must face Death head-on. Reconciliation of Death is a necessary part of Turquoise. But in no way does this guarantee suffering and destruction and loss. You can peacefully resolve Death, alone, in the comfort of your bedroom (chemical assistance optional but encouraged ), and resume life with a smile. Same lol. Genuine Turquoise is happy to be Green, Orange, Blue, or even Red. Dynamic range & flexibility. No resistance. I'm finally starting to learn. True detachment = indiscriminate embrace of everything. It's not about rejecting this or that. That's amazing. Explore Turquoise out of curiosity, to deepen love for what you already have. Laugh away the idea of escape. I understand this very intimately. Following Leo, there is this prevailing concept that "humanity = bullshit" If you place too much stock in human affairs, you get dragged into the illusion of finitude and limits which is fundamentally antithetical to Infinity/Limitlessness/GOD/Unconditional Love/Being. And though this is entirely true, I believe Leo fails to emphasize that humanity also = brilliance and beauty. Of course he is aware of such, but he probably has a block in expressing this publicly, since he is more fond of his role as the "bullshit detector" All of my awakenings and moments of transcendence only further deepen my appreciation for humans. I haven't tripped balls in a while but after every single trip EVER, I have consistently come back to earth with a renewed sense of appreciation and respect for all humans. These days I get this sharp PANG of gratitude doing the most mundane things such as listening to music, eating food, driving my car, having a conversation. Seeing my small role in this giant interconnected web, the effort put forth by every node in the network (unique individual people), the hardship, the overcoming, the loss, the triumph, the conflict and wars, the teamwork and philanthropy. I could cry right now if I think too hard about the flawed perfection that is the human condition. Reading the kind of person you are here, I have no doubt that you will share my experience. I believe this is a necessary phase. A door you must walk through, but not a room to stay in. Depending on your capacity for LOVE, this phase can last as little as 5 seconds. People just loop on this negativity because their LOVE is not yet strong enough. This doesn't have to be you. LOVE is a choice. Take your time. I had this from age 16 to age 24, a good 8 whole years lol. Now I don't even see humans as "having consciousness" When I see someone engaging in degeneracy, self-sabotage, complaining, drama, toxicity, or overall negativity, it doesn't compute to say they "have low consciousness" and that I somehow "have high consciousness." They're just doing their best. As am I. There is only One Consciousness. It is not "had" by anybody. "People" are composed of Consciousness. Imagine the planet Jupiter, let's pretend this is Consciousness. The dense storm swirls we see on the surface of this planet is like humans. We humans are a cluster of high-density pressure manifesting a shape on the surface of this unifying sphere. These storm swirls have different shapes and temperaments. Sometimes they clash, sometimes they unite into one superstorm. The whole time, the planet itself is never in danger. It is inviolable. It is the stage upon which the characters perform. And how can you blame another storm for being extra fierce? That guy that bothers you is identical to you. Of course, taking any of this on as a belief is antithetical to truth. Stage Turquoise is about feeling that connection with all humans in real-time. No thoughts, no beliefs. No spiritual gurus spoon-feeding you frameworks. I'm honestly still pretty lonely, but I harbor zero ill will towards anybody else and I blame nobody for the way I feel (other than myself at times, but even there I am learning to be kinder to myself). You're certainly ready for psychedelics. Just be careful with setting & legality.

I dove headfirst into turquoise years ago with over eagerness resulting in spiritual bypassing and neglect of tier 1 stages. Take things at a pace that feels right.

Success with women transcends individual occupation. Your labor only matters to the degree that it influences your self-belief Some men don't need to do any work at all to feel like Gods (exceedingly rare. NOT you. NOT me.) Most men need to do some degree of work before they realize their Godliness. You are in this category. I don't know your current living/labor situation, but from what I can tell you are doing the bare minimum. No wonder you feel like you "can't" The most successful men don't have single-digit IQ thoughts like you. They're thinking about laughing, having fun, fucking, and elevating. When you have good vibes, there is no reason to filter anything. That is highly attractive. Yeah no shit you're "unable" to talk about fetus smoothies without backlash. (although I could probably pull that off IF I'm in a very high vibe state and I frame it as a strictly hypothetical and she can sense that it's harmless fun) The solution is not to censor/filter your words and then to complain that you're oppressed. The answer is to rewire your mind to have high quality thoughts. Consider this: A confident, attractive, successful man can call a girl "slut" in the right context, with a cheeky nonjudgmental smirk, and she will laugh and blush and try to clear her name in a cute way "stoppp i'm nottt!" She just got a little more excited. But then you come along and call the same girl "SLUT." You're serious. You mean it. You're mad. You want her to suffer and cry. You want her to admit on behalf of all women that she has wronged you. You're threatening. You might hurt her. You don't understand why the other guy gets away with it. It's all so unfair. The air is heavy. Her face contorts, she scoffs and struts off. You think: "what a bitch" You both said the same thing, why oh why the difference in her reaction?????? can someone plz explain??? I'm perfectly serious. Of course you can say whatever you want at any time. Nothing stops your mouth from moving. "I can't say" is a dishonest phrase. You probably meant to say, "I can't say without consequences" This would be correct. No shit your actions and words have consequences. If you tell a girl that she should be sex trafficked, she will react negatively. OBVIOUSLY. Lol. No fucking shit. Especially if you say it in a serious way. But that doesn't mean that you CAN'T say those words. You are ALWAYS free to say whatever you want. The only question is: Are you able to handle the consequences? Better yet, are you able to be so authentic that you bypass all consequences? You currently have this self-belief that your fucked up thoughts are authentic. Wrong, you are self deceived. You only have low-IQ thoughts such as fetus smoothies and sex trafficking because you are in an inauthentic state of self-hatred. Self-hatred is not your true nature. You did not pop out of your mother's womb with self-hatred. Self-hatred is a learned behavior, a mask, a pattern that developed overtime. It's cope. Learn authentic self-love. Dissolve neurotic holding patterns. Change the quality of your thoughts. Elevate. That's the point of this work and this forum.

*I could be so much more as a person

I am. But I could be so much more. Paradox. It was 2 years outdated. I'll have a new picture soon.

No, the goal is to get the self-belief/confidence to rival a narcissist/sociopath but not to actually become one yourself. You're retarded if you think that being an egomanic is genuinely gratifying or fulfilling. If this is to say that women deserve abuse and trauma, stop. No, this builds dependence and makes you sloppy. Your financial lack is a direct reflection of your inability to provide value to the world. You are a leech, you have nothing to give. It's repulsive, and you know it deep down. It has nothing to do with how others perceive you. It's a matter of how YOU perceive you. Go work fast food (or whatever labor is a step-up from where you are at now) and you'll be slightly less of a leech. Yes because you're a leech. Change that. Completely avoidable. I don't have this fear. You are always free to say whatever you want. There is no such thing as "I can't say..." The most successful men say whatever the fuck is on their minds and women suck their cocks for it. So what's the difference between your communication and a successful man's communication? For starters, you preemptively assume rejection and your bodylanguage/tone becomes defensive and contracted, and that comes across as unattractive at best, threatening at worst, and you get bad reactions, which further solidifies your negative self image causing you to contract and defend even more. It's likely that you go into interactions with women as though it's some sort of battlefield, equipped with mental armor and ready to take a beating. Since you're so eager for a fight, it's no wonder women comply. If you really love women as much as you claim, how about you try 100 approaches where you show nothing but appreciation and reverence. And if they disrespect your frame, calmly put them in their place with a genuine smile as though they were a cute puppy whos barking too much. See them for who they are - a perfect, flawed human being in need of grounded masculine authenticity. Be done with this lazy leech shit. If you respond to this with more complaints, you simply don't deserve sex and that's that. If you want sex, shut up and grow yourself.

I feel just like you

Yes that is legit, but only if you have more self-belief than literal billionaires. Owen is talking about genuine sociopaths and narcissists. They have a warped sense of reality unlike you or I. To sense even a fraction of that confidence from your current state of crippling lack is triple black diamond slope difficulty. In a first world country like America, 99.999% of broke guys are mentally handicapped (they limit themselves). They're "flat broke" for a reason. You can't even make minimum wage to support yourself? Good luck having more self-belief than a billionaire. And although yes, you could technically free your mind without changing your material circumstances, it would be significantly easier to just go make a mild amount of money to self-sustain. Flipping burgers at McDonalds is better for your self esteem than doing nothing all day and seeing $0 in your checking account. Your mind needs physical proof of your capabilities, not empty promises. One does not simply wallclip to invincible confidence overnight.

I thought I was the only one who had something to say about this 😭

sounds like standard body load. no big deal happens every time for me and my friends this i'm not too sure about.