Leo Gura

Duh

By the time I am done seducing a girl she is literally begging me "Please fuck me!" I make her say Please again and again. It ain't rape. Then again, I also get girls asking me to rape them. Also not rape. If she's in my bed she wants to be there. So please spare me the rape accusations.

Yes, it seems that way because detachment from outcome is very counter-intuitive and paradoxical. It is a larger point than just dating or girls. In life the best results come when you have a very clear and strong intent to achieve something, but at the same time you're detached from outcome. Yet even though you are detached from outcome you will work like hell to make it happen. And if you should fail, you immediately let it go and move to the next thing. This isn't just the secret to getting girls. It's the secret to running a business and many other pursuits. So you would be well to learn this lesson. Guys shouldn't chase after girls. But once you got a girl in your bed, you should move mountains to close her. She didn't get in that bed to play patty-cakes. If it takes 5 hrs of foreplay to get her to open her legs, that's what it takes. If you want her, you do what is necessary to get her. This is not neediness. This is getting shit done. I gamed from 12am to 10am to get that girl. 10hrs! That's how you get shit done. Apply this attitude everywhere in life and you will see great results.

No, it's leadership and persistence. What I said doesn't contradict that. No, it's simply me being a man and following through on my intent. If my intent is to sleep with someone I will work to make it happen. A few obstacles are not going to stop me. Getting laid is not about ego validation, it's about getting laid.

You are God.

You're doing great. Don't logic with her about sex. Just seduce her and get her horny. She will clearly have sex with you, you just need to seriously seduce her into it with proper physical escalation and old fashioned romance. Took me 2hrs once to get a girl to let me fuck her once I got her into my bed. 2hrs of patiently escalating and slowly seducing her despite her token resistance and coyishness. I had to pull her pants off inch by inch. Every inch took work. 2 fucking hours in my bed till sex. The sun was already up! Finally she said: Go get a condom. This was the hottest girl I ever fucked. She played so many games with me. Girls will play silly games with you. Ignore all that and be persistent. Do not let her games throw you off your course. And if she's on her period, fuck her anyways. Use condoms well. Don't wait around. Lead and make it happen!

I expect many incels are too far gone into toxic ideology to get good with girls. It's a damn shame.

That's a great pic. That's how girls get if you escalate the wrong way, in a creepy way.

Spend 30 days going to nightclubs and opening every girl physical and do rapid physical escalation. Get lots of blowouts. This is just for practice. I have spent months practicing physical openers in loud ass clubs. You literally gently grab girls and pull them into you until you develop a magic touch. It takes a lot of practice to be able to do it without creeping girls out. You learn to get smooth so the girl doesn't bristle. You have to do it with rock solid confidence. If you hesitate it comes off creepy. That confidence comes with massive experience. Practice, practice, practice.

When it comes to physical escalation you must read her face and reaction when you touch her. If she bristles or subtly avoids your touch, then you immediately pull back, and even push her away a bit. Physical escalation should never be something the woman bristles at. You can easily tell this just by observing her face whenever you touch her. Example: When I pulled that Instagram model, I tried to lead her to my car by simply taking and holding her hand. The most mild physical escalation possible. She pulled her hand away and refused to hold hands. I immediately pulled my hand away, played it cool, and just walk with her to my car. Then drove her home. Sometimes a girl will refuse to hold your hand but she will come home with you and let you fuck her. All game must be calibrated to the girl. If she bristles, pull back but lead forward as if nothing happened. It's on until she tells you to go away. Nothing is gained by forcing your touch on a woman who bristles at it. Only increase touch if she likes it or doesn't resist. If she is resisting your game and you keep running the same game, you're making a mistake. Adjust your game to suit her.

I found some bullshit right there

Yes. If you are gonna play that victim game then you will get stuck. You will most likely become too stuck to ever succeed in spirituality. Spirituality is about taking responsibility and ownership over your life, first and foremost. Without that, nothing else is possible. Getting laid is way easier than awakening. If you can't learn to get laid, forget about awakening.

I'm not saying all women. I am saying what a guy needs to know to become successful with women.

No one ever said incels are bad people. Some of them simply create a toxic online ideology which has nothing to do with reality or truth. Even dwarves can get laid if they go out and socialize. Most incels can get laid, they simply have too toxic of a mindset to do the work necessary. It's true that women will not sleep with you out of pitty. They are selective for strong men. Which you can become through hard work if you drop your toxic incel ideology.

The secret is: Truth is happiness.

Buy a fish from the store and stick it in your Fleshlight. Problem solved

You can do your work in private where no one knows what you're doing. Keep trying harder. That's the solution. Talking about how nothing works is not a solution. I understand it's very hard for you there. But there is no other option really.

Bunch of BS. That will not awaken you.

Keep blasting the ego with psychedelics until all fear is faced and conquered. It's like demolishing a dam one stick of dynamite at a time. The problem is that your ego-mind has not yet seen the highest Truth, so it cannot integrate it.

I've been there. Coming back is not something you choose, it just happens for you. At that level of consciousness you are so surrendered you don't care if you come back or not. It makes no difference to you, which is why its so terrifying. You will always come back I think unless you take a dose that physically breaks the body.

The limit is people will have major emotional upheaval and ego backlashes. Be careful. Don't overtrain at the gym.

Lol Girls bilk clueless guys for $25 drinks in this town every day. And more. Arrest them all. Give her a little taste of her own medicine if she starts acting up. She might actually start to respect you. A hot girl texted me to buy her jewelry after I got her number. I laughed in her face and told her to take a hike. A week later she texted me back asking for a date. I was probably one of the few guys who called her out on her shit so directly. Which is exactly what a hot girl wants from a man she would date as opposed to just use. Hot girls know how to use guys. They know most guys are suckers. Those are the ones they use and never fuck. The ones they fuck are the ones who don't put up with their BS. Set the frame: I'm the boss here. Hot girls are attracted to strength. So set a strong frame. Hot girls will test your frame to see if you are man enough to hold it or if you will fold and supplicate to her just because she is hot. The hotter she is the more strict you gotta be with your frame. Like a rock. If she doesn't respect you she will not get wet for you. So be unfuckwithable. Be a man.

A ONS is not about using a body for sex. This is an absurd framing. A ONS can be two people having fun, having an adventure, having a fling with no strings attached. You can relate with a person for the night without having to do something serious afterwards. Often a ONS happens because two people are traveling and simply won't be able to see each other again afterwards. Or they just aren't a good match for a relationship. You can sleep with a person and then not like them as much as you thought. The sex can be bad, her body might not be up to par, maybe she snores like a pig, or whatever. You don't really know a person till you sleep with them. Mostly it happens because both sides want to have fun and blow off some steam. Then the mood changes the next day. And don't forget, girls will use guys for sex too. I've had girls I wanted to see again never even text me back the next day. It's not just guys who do that.

Enough.

This has all been discussed to death in the Kriya Yoga Mega-Thread.