Leo Gura

@username No, I personally don't get into that kind of stuff. Not because I think it's necessarily BS, but because my focus is on figuring out reality from scratch for myself. I don't like depending on any guru or any technique or anyone. My premise is: whatever is ultimately true must be achievable independent of any human teacher or teaching. For me, the most powerful method is solo-retreats and psychedelics. Nothing is as direct as that. With that said, I have studied hundreds of different teachers. So I am not opposed to learning from people.

If they shared more than 2%, you'd think they are batshit crazy. We are in the Dark Ages still. The world at large isn't ready for these kinds of teachings. Look at Teal Swan for example. She needs security guards at her meet ups because people do death threats to her. Why? Because she talks about New-Agey stuff that pisses people's paradigms off.

Yeah, I see a lot of that in the pickup community. Because pickup doesn't address any deep inner deficiencies. It just masks the problem by getting you laid. It's like a Band-aid on a broken leg. I know guys who've been with 200-300 girls, but inside they are immature, insecure children. This all goes back to the point about success being a false metric of inner growth. People confuse success with development level so easily. And it's very easy to trick yourself into believing that your success = development. Because you want to believe it! Success is actually MUCH easier than development. Success in life merely requires excellent manipulation skills, which are not that hard to acquire in many cases. You can manipulate a child into trading you his ice cream cone for a rotten banana peel. But that won't grow you. In fact, it actually sets you back because the only reason you'd want to manipulate that child in the first place is because of some deep fear or insecurity you have which you don't want to face. It's very easy to run away from your inner issues by having sex with many hot girls, going to clubs every night, and getting absorbed in PUA theory & bro-culture. PUA is really not much different than radical Islamic fundamentalist groups: young immature wounded men acting cocky, learning to assert their power over others because they got nothing better to do. But hey, that's how some humans grow up.

Hundreds of them do do great marketing. Nevertheless, you don't know about them because you are so isolated and you haven't gone out of your way to do the research. Maybe it is only hundreds. I am just guessing.

There are probably that many in India alone. I have met some, and extrapolate the rest using common sense.

@egoless Every language has dozens of synonyms and titles for God, each with their own nuances. Almighty, for example.

There are thousands of such yogis and sages all around the world. They just don't get much press. The problem is that people mistake publicity, marketing, and external success with spiritual mastery. The only reason we're talking about Sadhguru is because he has successful marketing. The only reason you're talking to me is because I have successful marketing. Without the right marketing, you would just be watching some Netflix right now, jerking off in your basement, and thinking you have the whole world figured out.

Sadhguru He is hardcore as fuck. He is what I imagine Jesus must have been like. The funny thing is, people like Jesus exist today, and people just take them totally for granted. Ignorance really is like blindness. There can be an elephant in the room, and you will miss it, mistaking his scent for a pile of shit.

@egoless Because they are Hindus! You want Hindus from 5000 years ago to speak English? Think about what you're asking. All words are arbitrary sounds pointing to direct experiences other than themselves. We say God, they say Shiva. Same exact thing.

It's not a metaphor. It's a synonym for The Absolute. If you experience the Absolute, you will know exactly what the word "shiva" refers to. It's just like any other word, like "apple" or "dog". The only difference is, you've never experienced "shiva" so you don't know what it's pointing to. Yogic teachings go back further than recorded history. Just like toilets.

@How to be wise It's gonna take you several lifetimes of practice before you get to a point where you can fully understand Sadhguru. He is talking about super advanced things which 99.99999% of people will never be able to comprehend. It's totally outside anything you imagine possible. The appropriate response is to know your ignorance and be humble. It's all too easy to start judging and namecalling things you have zero experience of. You may as well consider Sadhguru a creature from another planet. Because that's about far apart your two consciousnesses are. The trouble with advanced teachers is that they appear much more humble and simple than they really are. Which makes it easy for a fool to take the teacher for a fool. P.S. It's more like the New Ager didn't go far enough down the road to become a yogi.

@Socrates Good! That's progress. Sitting around mentally-masturbating has its uses. Eventually it leads to you saying, "Fuck this! I need to start taking action!" And in this way, the journey begins. Don't expect your journey to be highly efficient. Many of the inefficiencies are required to get your emotional system bought into taking action. The suffering and backsliding is often mandatory. Fuckups are the best teacher. There is nothing quite like wasting 3 years of your life to get you motivated.

Actually, PUAs mostly treat their guy friends as objects too. They generally have a selfish, manipulative attitude towards life overall. I got into it because I wanted to learn how girls clicked and break out of my introverted shell, for which purposes it was great. Nothing beats going in-field and approaching real girls. I was never much swayed by their low consciousness dogma. Well, I was a bit, but not nearly as bad as I see many PUAs doing. And I have been able to unwire most of that, because I'm not a dogmatic person. You tend to get from a thing the consciousness you bring into it. Low consciousness people do low consciousness thing no matter where they go. High consciousness people can extract deep lessons even from low consciousness activities. From doing PUA I realized the value of something like Actualized.org. And so I created it. Actualized.org was where I wished PUA would go, but probably never will.

I notice some of you guys have some really limited views of girls from all the stupid pickup dogma you've absorbed. Careful with that. The reality of girls is VERY different than what pickup portrays, and it will come back to bite you. All your scheming and manipulating will create a lot of suffering for you in the end, even if it manages to get you laid. You will end up getting hoisted by your own petard, as they say. The better alternative would be to apply real consciousness to your interactions with women. Stop gaming them so much. It's totally unnecessary. They will love you even more when you stop gaming them. Your goal should be REAL authenticity, not getting them to like you.

@egoless Shiva exists as all humans, including you and me. Shiva is the only thing that exists. Shiva also exists as your toilet.

@egoless Sadhguru belongs to a rich Hindu cultural tradition, as all human beings do. You have to learn how to interpret symbolism if you're gonna study religion/mysticism. You can't take it all literally. Of course some human first invented the yogic system. But so what? Some first human also invented the toilet. Good luck getting to the bottom of who that guy was, lol.

There's a lot of myth and religious mumbo-jumbo around. "The first Yogi" might just be a metaphor for the ONE. In the same way that people say that the ultimate guru is Truth itself. I wouldn't take "first yogi" literally. Whoever the literal first yogi was, has been long forgotten. It was thousands of years before recorded history, long before the Buddha. Maybe as far back as 100,000 years. It's sorta like asking, "Who was the first hunter?"

Shiva is simply Nothingness. The Absolute. Truth. Absolute Infinity, without form, outside time, eternal. Shiva is the thing that's aware of this very sentence.

There is no you. Look! You don't feel anything already, because you are an imaginary entity, like Santa Claus. Santa Claus won't have an afterlife, because he didn't have a life to begin with. All your reasoning is based on the false premise that you exist.

I find it interesting that cats don't crave carrots, and cows don't crave meat. But humans crave meat, fat, and sweets. You never see a cow going, "Damn! I sure could go for a juicy roast chicken right about now." You never see a cat going, "Damn! I really want that juicy apple."

Ya'll are way too optimistic. Too much Star Trek and science fiction, that's the problem here I'm still waiting on my flying car, VR sex, and hoverboard.

Wheat is evil The Devil's candy

Meanwhile same doctors and nurses hand out antidepressants and opiods like candy. Ah... the absurdity of Western mainstream medicine. True story: I once paid a doctor $100+ to tell me that there is no scientifically valid data to show that acne is related to diet. Then he sold me an anti-acne medicine cream which burned my face with chemicals for $200 per tube of a 2 month supply, that I was supposed to use for the rest of my life. But don't worry, he gave me a 20% off coupon because he was friendly with the manufacturer, which was located nearby. Bless his heart.

I understand that feeling. Dressing sharp can make you feel more proactive, compared to say dressing lazy in sweatpants. There is also a confidence boost in dressing sharp.

@ppfeiff Humans lived through many ice ages. We certainly are adapted to living in the cold. Many people thrive in the cold, not just survive. Rather than sharp claws and teeth, nature equipped you with a brain to make sharp stone tools, which hominids have been making for probably a million years. Yes, we require fiber because our diets always included plants. Roots and shoots and berries and leaves and mushrooms can be gathered in many places. I generally agree that a veggie and fruit diet is best. Seems to me that our ancestors basically ate anything and everything they ran across. Like bears.