Leo Gura

I dare any so-called enlightened master to snort 30mg of 5-MeO. Then we can record the look in their face. I've already succeeded in getting one enlightened guy vomitting so hard on 10mg he never came back for a second dose.

Except there is a difference between reading "a book" and practicing Kriya yoga as taught via a book. Sadhguru basically teaches his own form of Kriya yoga. I find it ironic that every yoga lineage tells you to strictly obey their school's practice without any deviation. And yet, there are hundreds of these lineages, all with their own arbitrary variations on the same core techniques. So how much of it is genuinely for your safety, and how much of it is them trying to save their own asses by creating a monopoly on spirituality? It's not really in their interest to say, "Yeah, you can tinker around with this stuff without us." With that said, yes, I do believe there are dangers to awakening your kundalini without knowing what you're doing. So if you're gonna do it, learn about nuclear physics

Yes, judge for yourselves folks. I'm just offering my opinions based on my research. Your conclusions may be different.

Hehehe.... That's like going to a channel that teaches fitness advice for ordinary people and asking, "But what about Arnold Schwarzenegger? Why not be like him? He can squat 700 lbs! Why tell people to squat 200 lbs? It's nowhere near!" Dude... most people can't even stop playing video games or put down their smart phone. Forget about enlightenment. Ravi Shankar is a once-in-a-generation individual. You ain't ever gonna be at his level. And if you are, you certainly ain't gonna do it watching YouTube videos or hanging out on this forum. You should be living in a cave and meditating 24/7. You are talking about a COMPLETE surrender of your life. Who is prepared to do that? 99% of people will not reach the bar of Actualized.org. If you're in the 1% who outgrows Actualized.org, then by all means go do it.

That's a great question. The answer is nuanced. Ultimately, if all your care about is 100% truth, then by all means go balls to the wall with uprooting all your beliefs and go straight for the Absolute. But even so, keep in mind that it might not be so simple. The technique you choose to do that might not click with you, and you might find yourself stuck. What do you do then? What do you do after you've done 2000 hours of self-inquiry but still haven't broken through? You start wondering that maybe you need a different technique. Maybe this technique you've been doing does not address all the obstacles in your way? Maybe your 2nd chakra is blocked so you can't stop daydreaming about sex? Maybe you're addicted to food, or porn, or internet. Maybe you have ADD and can't focus long enough to have the technique work. Maybe you need a more heart-centered, less logical technique? And the technique you're currently using doesn't address that. How would you know which technique to use in the first place? Based on who's authority? Will you trust Jed McKenna? Or Sadhguru? Or Echkart Tolle? Or Neo-Advaita? How will you know who is right? And how will you go about integrating your awakening experiences even if you have them? And how will you know when you're done? And what will be your attitude towards all the other spiritual teachers and students? Will you become a curmudgeon like U.G. Krishnamurti? Will you throw everything in the trash like Jed McKenna? Will you tell people that meditation is bullshit? And how will you explain kundalini energy? How will you explain channeling? How will you explain out of body experience, near death experience, entities, deities, people seeing auras, healing, siddhis, paranormal phenomena, etc? Will you just say all of that is ego-delusions and unworthy of any attention? And even after you attain the Absolute, what then? What about all your bad habits? What about your relationships? What about your career? Are you now instantly conscious of all of the nuances in all of these areas? Have you mastered your emotions? Have you mastered consciousness of your body and energy? Guess again. My approach is to take all these factors seriously, rather than hand-waving them away. Because I do not know the true nature of these things until I have thoroughly researched and experimented with them. For me the point is accurate and broad understanding of life. Some people consider Charles Manson woken up. Some people consider Sam Harris woken up. And? So? What does "waking up" really mean for you? How you do know your notions of "waking up" are correct?

@Outer Very interesting. Thanks for the share! Seems like he's not a lost cause after all. Although 700ug is an epic-size dose. I go deeper than he went on 125ug. So this seems to confirm my theory that people can have radically different brain chemistry, which gives them different access to reality. Although in the end, he was still able to reach the Absolute.

@Mighty Mouse I guess we'll agree to disagree.

@Mighty Mouse Of course it's not about Jed McKenna. I'm talking about his message. There isn't even a guy there. He used a fake name and persona. I got nothing against the guy. I question his teachings. Although I'm also grateful for his books. He has helped me to cut through the bullshit. My point is, that can also go too far.

@Mighty Mouse I don't hold Ra in any special regard. I take a holistic snapshot of over 100 enlightened masters and cross-reference all the their perspectives to form a sort of meta-perspective of the field. I'm not saying this approach is infallible, but I think it's pretty solid as a guiding map. And then of course comes direct experience. JM's models don't actually explain the entire field of spirituality very well. He just throws it all in the trash, and for me, that's way too flippant of an attitude. To say, for example, as JM does, that meditation doesn't work, is pretty silly, IMO. It shows that he hasn't actually meditated seriously.

You have some valid points. Of course I expect to be mindfucked some more and errors to be expunged in this process. But I cannot hold JM in such high regard as you do. From everything I've studied and experienced, what he says just doesn't ring fully correct. As one example, he says in one of this books that there are a single digit number of enlightened people on the planet. This is patently false to me. Of course I could be wrong. People will have to judge for themselves. I can only judge as best as I can judge. But I don't see JM as the highest realized master. I smell closedmindedness in him, despite whatever awakening he has obviously had. And I smell that you have drank his cool-aid a little too much. As far a "further", I'm all for that. The thing I try to get across to people the most is that "you do not know how deep the rabbit hole goes, so don't rest on your laurels, thinking you've completed the journey."

@pankoo Good for you. Why would I think you're trolling me? I'm happy to see people getting enlightened, or having glimpses. That's the whole point of what I do: sharing the profundity of these insights with people. The whole point is that no one is in control of when these insights dawn. It's not up you or me. For some people it happens in 3 days, for others it happens in 30 years, and for others it never happens at all. I've seen old ladies who hardly know anything about enlightenment have big breakthroughs very quickly while more serious students of nonduality stay stuck. It actually helps to be a newb at this. The more conceptual knowledge of enlightenment you have, the worse it can be. Keep in mind, you probably have deeper to go. And beginner's luck tends to run out.

We are speaking about different levels of reality. In the same way that you can speak about a "cat" or a the molecules making up the cat. Both descriptions are describing the same thing, but from different levels. From the ultimate level, there are no brains. But from the ordinary-life level, we speak of "brains" because it is convenient, in the same way that speaking of "cats" is convenient. The interplay between brain, mind, and consciousness is infinitely complex. It's an utterly self-involved strange loop. You cannot separate these things out neatly. What "the brain" really means is not a physical object inside of which reality is rendered, but an involution of consciousness which interplays with itself.

So get your finances in order. BTW, it doesn't cost that much to live in different places.

Okay, thanks for the support ya'll. I'll be hatching some plans.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3761619/ It's a rather technical subject. In humans, the synchronization of alpha, theta, and gamma waves produces the Buddhist state of mind called Rigpa -- knowledge of the Ground. I've tried doing the synchronization. It's pretty nifty. A very peaceful state.

I don't know. I don't see people raising kundalini after enlightenment. That's something people usually do before hand.

You're in for one hell of an epiphany! Excited for you to finally see it Sure, I'd enjoy being on Joe's podcast. I don't think he knows who I am though and I bet he gets a ton of requests. If you guys wanna let him know, that would be cool. Twitter is probably the best way to reach him. I think we'd have a great conversion about consciousness and psychedelics and stuff like that.

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What exactly are you claiming I'm saying is false?

I'm not saying women should rule the world. I'm just making an observation about how the human species rules itself. It does so through alpha-male domination. It's been doing this for over 2000 years. And the values of our cultures are often defined by these dominate alpha-males, so much so that it goes unnoticed. Women have only been able to vote for like 80 years. Think about that. In many Middle Eastern countries women aren't even allowed to drive or open a bank account without male permission. It's pretty fucked up. And while America is much more equal today, do you really think 2000 years of that kind of oppression has been weeded out of our collective consciousness?

This!

@Cameron Yup, indeed that's how language is. But not just language, the fabric of reality itself. Did you see my Derrida video? Def check it out if you haven't. It's about this.

@Cjaryo Do you feel emotions for other people's suffering?

@Outer Step outside your male-dominant perspective. The fact that women are forced to wear business suits and compete for top alpha chimp in business environments just goes to show the extent of the patriarchy. If women ran the world, it would be a very different place. Not perfect, but certainly not the madness we commonly see today. Yes, patriarchy stems from biology. I have a book on my book list about the differences between chimps and bonobos. It really puts the human ape into perspective.

Kriya yoga is a comprehensive system that is designed to gradually open all the chakras with the end-goal of opening the crown. If you do the practice, you shouldn't need to worry about each individual chakra. Although you could do additional visualization techniques to fix up any lagging chakras. I like visualizing opening the heart chakra. It feels great. See kundalini book in my book list for more ideas about how to do that. See Kriya yoga book in my book list for a set of step-by-step instructions for Kriya practice.