Leo Gura

I'm not really the best person to ask because I'm quite reclusive. I don't socialize much. But if I were in your shoes, I would expose myself to more of the right environments. Join yoga classes, move to a hip city like Austin, join meditation centers, go to seminars, go to satsangs, etc. If you go to a Tony Robbin's seminar -- for example -- you'll probably meet a lot of cool people there. You can even meet girls at Wholefoods. They are into health. Here's a biz idea: Tinder for conscious people

@Greatnestwithin Many, many of them. Although it's really hard to gauge how deep their penetration was.

To be sure there are always risks. Having a vomit buck handy is a must. I've seen a few other people snort 5-MeO and it never seems to render them totally helpless. They are still able to function safely. But of course some people could go ape-shit nuts. From my own personal experience I don't feel any physical danger. I would be much more concerned with energetic dangers. I experienced a crazy release of kundalini energy through my fingers at 30mg. It didn't feel totally safe. I'm not eager to go through that again. It was a bit traumatic.

There's an old Zen story: Over a thousand years ago a group of young monks were sitting in a Zen monastery doing a hardcore meditation retreat when a stray cat started meowing inside. The cat was so annoying and distracting that the head monk told one of his helper monks to go tie the cat up outside in front of the meditation hall where it could not be heard. That year many monks became enlightened. A thousand years later every meditation hall in that region of Japan would tie a cat outside on the first day of retreat. When asked why, they said, "For good fortune. With this cat we get more enlightenments."

We would be extremely lucky to get a stage Green President. Right now we got a stage Red thug. If we get a stage Green President, he/she will be demonized to no limit as a bleeding heart social justice warrior and Communist.

I have a good kundalini/chakra book on my book list which would be worth reading. I will add more in the future too. Yes, there can be some dangers with opening chakras, especially if you're unaware of what to expect. Opening the 3rd eye often comes with seeing auras, siddhis, and other weird spiritual phenomena which could freak people out if they don't expect it. Overall I think it's all positive stuff. You just have to learn to integrate these awakenings properly with your regular life, which can be tricky.

Thousands of Westerners can enter nirvikalpa samadhi. It's not necessarily that he's lying. It could just be part of his spiritual and cultural tradition. Just because he's enlightened doesn't mean he's shed all his cultural dogmas and beliefs. Those tend to sit very deep. Very few enlightened people transcend their culture. Indian culture has an enormous amount of spiritual beliefs, customs, rituals, and people doing spirituality by blind obedience. I don't see Zen students or masters falling over dead from nirvikalpa samadhi. And they meditate as hardcore as anyone.

@egoless If you glimpse the Absolute, you'd understand perfectly. Until then, not a chance.

Lol, yeah. Me and 7 billion other humans. Surprise, surprise! I am a human with flaws and weaknesses! Nevertheless the party continues. If you're looking for Jesus, that ain't me.

@Speedscarlet Then how do you explain that there are no corpses carried out of meditation centers every year?

Not at all. That's totally subjective. You just have to step outside yourself a bit to see it. Obviously the person doing the torture, rape, murder, etc. doesn't think it's evil. So already, you see it's subjective. Nazi's can't be objectively evil simply because Nazi's don't agree that they are evil. So already it's your word against theirs. He said, she said. For something to be objective, it would have to be true from every being's perspective. If murder was objectively evil, all of life would grind to a halt. You cannot be alive without murdering other beings. But you don't like hearing this, so you hide it underneath the veil of morality and self-biased double-standards. See, as much as you may think you like objectivity, in fact, you hate it. Ego cannot like objectivity because objectively-speaking the survival of all egos is irrelevant. And the ego cannot accept that because its sole purpose is to survive as itself. So objectivity and ego is like oil and vinegar. But of course the ego cannot admit this, so it lies about it, saying, "No! I'm being really objective!" when in fact ego is pure subjectivity. The devil must call himself an angel, otherwise he would realize he is a devil and then he would have to stop, thereby ceasing to be a devil. So morality is literally a tool of the devil against God. See how sneaky the mind is? God has no morality. It loves everything equally. But this level of infinite love is too radical for the devil. He literally cannot handle it. God's love would kill any devil who dared to look upon it. So all devils lurk in the shadows, away from the light, doing their evil deeds under the cover of darkness. Unconsciousness is the roosting-place of the devil. Here is the #1 key to being a devil: not knowing you are one.

If mainstream society is a snail. Enlightenment is the salt. The good news for enlightened people is that no one takes them seriously anyhow. They too busy chasing sex, money, religion, fame, power, food, technology, and entertainment to care about metaphysics. Meta-what?? Where are my Cheetos?!! Where is my porn?!! Where is my Bible?!! Where is my Game Of Thrones??!! Where is my stock market??!! Where is my iPhone??!!

That's way too generous an assessment. What you mean there by "conscious creatures" is only those creatures who fit your agenda. As soon as a conscious creature behaves in a way that impinges on your survival agenda, you will call him evil and exterminate him. In truth, you don't really care about conscious creatures. You care about your moral worldview and your self-image. Evil, by definition, is that which harms your ego. Good, by definition, is that which soothes your ego. The rest is window-dressing to make your morality feel objective and "for the good of all". Because of course the chief lie is that what's good for you is good for all. When in fact that can never be the case. The hidden purpose of morality is to mask your own egotism by veiling it in nobility. So that you never have to face your own evil head-on, which would be very emotionally challenging. Have you noticed that the most "moral" people are the ones who are willing to admit of their own evils the least? That's not an accident. That's the purpose of morality.

@zikzak I should clarify that I mean solo snorting more so than smoking. When snorted, there's no loss of physical control and I find it very physically safe. The dangers are more psychological and energetic. Be careful with doing big intense doses of 5-MeO. It's very powerful energetically and I'm sure it could mangle your energetic system if overdone. Snorting is more gentle. As I learn more about chakras and yoga, I'm becoming more wary of opening energy channels up too rapidly. Faster and stronger is definitely not always better. All good yogic systems are designed to gently unlock your spiritual energies precisely because otherwise there will be problems down the road. I recommend doing 5-MeO only occasionally and supplementing with more gentle and milder psychedelics like LSD. The insights you will gain from LSD after having broken-through to Absolute Infinity on 5-MeO will be epic and much more coherent. And they will be gentler.

Obviously NOT, since you have been transforming long before you learned about enlightenment.

ABSOLUTE INFINITY!

@BeyondForm Yes, enlightenment is facing your very real death. It ain't no joke. Good for you for taking the plunge. As far as Mahasamadhi... I am unsure. Part of me feels those yogi like to exaggerate, and part of me feels that Mahasamadhi is a real thing. I wouldn't be surprised if it was possible. But why worry about it? It's a very advanced thing. It will not happen to you by accident. The whole point of Mahasamadhi is that you make a deliberate choice to do it. Just as a fact: you don't see too many people falling dead at meditation retreats or yogic ashrams. If Mahasamdhi happened accidential (oxymoron) then you'd see a lot more corpses carried out of those places.

You're in for a rude awakening if you assume that. Ha! Look around your room! THAT is consciousness! Everything you've ever seen or perceived is consciousness! Consciousness is the "physical" substance of "the world". The reason consciousness is the #1 value is because it's the only thing there is!

@Dan Arnautu The counter-intuitive move might be to slow down rather than speed up. Try to get your routine down to the bare essentials. As you grow, your routine cannot stay the same. It has to adapt. Some parts of it you will outgrow. Also, be careful with confusing a healthy routine for consciousness. It's easy to get those two confused. Letting go of routines and operating more on consciousness alone can be a great growth opportunity. Also, try loving yourself more especially when you backslide. Shoulding all over yourself in such a case tends to only make things worse. Also notice how state-dependant you've become. You've hitched your happiness and self-esteem to executing your routine. And now you see the downside of that. It's still conditional happiness. Ground your happiness in BEING rather than doing. The good news is, if you've done it for 2 years, you can do it again, and it will be way easier the second time around.

Aim to cultivate a few key friendships with high consciousness people and find a high consciousness gf/bf.

I don't like the idea of banning people for a mere difference of opinion. People here are banned when they violate the list of Forum Guidelines. The amount of flack I would get for banning people who disagreed with my philosophy would be endless. I have to bite my tongue a lot on here, so as not to appear dictatorial. People who don't buy into enlightenment won't hang around here very long anyhow. They will naturally lose interest. The more realistic problem is people creating factions over their favorite version of nonduality while poo-pooing the rest. This is a much more serious problem which has plagued every spiritual community since the dawn of human civilization and spilled much blood. And the sad part is, people still haven't learned the lesson. What we need most of all is tolerance and compassion for other perspectives.

If you guys aren't open to learning, why are you here? I've told you things which are extremely nuanced and profound. This stuff requires years of work to understand. Coming here and acting cocky and flippant is not going to cut it. It's extremely obvious that you have not glimpsed the Absolute or thought deeply about the nature of science or epistemology. Yet here you are trying to advance some position. Be careful not to underestimate reality. It does not work the way you think.

@aEOf I forget now if it was 28mg or 30mg.

Yes, but at some point you will discover why it must be so, and why it is perfect. God left you clueless so that you can experience the thrill of awakening to your own infinite being. If you already knew the punchline, that would be a shame in a sense. You have been given the gift of ignorance so that you could come to know yourself as God.

There's nothing wrong with focusing on getting your life together. Just keep your meditation practice going. It's not a big weight. Plenty of people manage to run their life and meditate an hour a day. Kriya yoga, for example, was designed to only take about 1 hour per day. The instruction was: spend 1 hour per day on yoga and enlightenment, and the rest of your day handling your business and family obligations. You do not need to become an ascetic to become enlightened. Just do your practices more diligently. Quality > quantity. I know people who do 2-3 hours per day of yoga and still manage to run a busy life. A very effective structure is this: 1-2 hours per day of inquiry + four 10-day solo retreats per year. The rest of the time, do whatever business you got. Another option is: take 3 months off and go balls-to-the-wall with inquiry. 24/7. Get your awakening breakthrough and then return to ordinary life, deepening your realization with 1 hour per day of meditation/yoga.