Leo Gura

Be ware of confusing being enlightened with being a good human being or being a good teacher. These are all very different things. What you are talking about is the ideal of sainthood, which is WAY beyond enlightenment. You can be enlightened and not teach a single person. You can be enlightened and kill a human being with a fork and then eat him for breakfast. Those things are indepedent variables. Of course that doesn't make sense to you if you define enlightenment as saintliness. Osho's fruits are quite clearly on display in his writings.

I've had experiences of infinity while sleeping. It's cool stuff. But rare at this point. Masters are able to be conscious 24/7.

So what is the problem? You can't sit on chair?

Sounds right. What exactly did you become cosnscious of? No-self? That's good, but there's also more. Of course teachers are teaching themselves. They are also eating themselves, fucking themselves, crapping inside themselves, talking to themselves, looking at themselves, working for themselves, critciszing themselves, etc. Because there is only one thing: The Infinite Self. When all is ONE, how can you even walk on the ground without stepping on yourself?

I like up. It represents openness to the universe.

Well, #2 isn't really Nirvikalpa, because it is Sahaja! But yeah. And there are many more realizations and states than those 2.

Why are doing half-lotus on a chair???

Does not help his case. He is still wrong. He isn't even conscious of the difference between direct experience and concept. What more is there to say of such a person? Stephen Hawaking was a better physicist than this guy, and Stephen Hawking was wrong. So what? Appeal to authority does not equal truth. Dogmatic people appeal to authority and credentials because they refuse to be conscious for themselves.

Physics does not apply to infinity, physics is one outgrowth of infinity.

@Betterself It doesn't have to be painful. Sounds like you've read too many trip reports or people struggling on the path. There is also the question of depth. How deep did you go? Probably not very deep. The deeper levels may prove more challenging.

There's contradiction at all between being enlightened and being an alcoholic. You can do both, and more!

You expect a bunch of materialistic Reddit trolls to understand the subtlty of nonduality?? Lol Those guys have no idea what they are up against. Just reading one random sentence of his critique and it's already ignorance of the plainest sort.

@Vinnie Move to a very cheap part of the country to live, somewhere in the middle of the woods, live spartan, and do your consciousness work from morning till night until you become deeply enlightened. If you go at it hardcore like that, it should happen pretty fast; within a year. Read Om Swami's book on my book list to see how he did it. He was real hardcore about it. This isn't rocket science. You just need to have the will to do it. Buddha-style.

I don't doubt Osho's enlightenment. He was a squirrely guru tho. And the cult around seems a bit irresponsible.

Nothing, just rest it on your thigh or in your lap.

@Achilles Start with small doses of LSD or mushrooms. See how you handle that. There is no reason to guess or speculate with psychedelics. You can dose very small and see exactly what your tolerance level is. You just have to be patient and responsible, unlike what most people do: just eyeball a big dose, damn the consequences.

@Hsinav Yeah, maybe. Not everyone is willing to scour through all of Osho's YT videos.

@Betterself That's very very common. I've had that too. The reason is goes away is because the enlightenment needs to be deep enough and total enough so that your mind understands the mechanism of the illusion. What is really going on? That's usually not clear after one glimpse. Many glimpses may be required because the materialist/dualist paradigm sits very deep in the mind. It's like your operating system, and it needs rewiring. Also, the Truth itself needs to be distinguished from the exciting experience or the emotional after-effects. There is a difference between mystical states and insight.

@Timotheus I never said that. I am saying the opposite. With lots of consciousness work you can end your suffering, at least for this incarnation. Next incarnation is another matter, and is irrelevant to this incarnation. Suffering is simply the result of being an ego.

@Clown I would say that you don't need or want a guru, but it is extremely valuable to meet and learn from enlightened masters face-to-face. It's a very different experience than watching a YT video or reading a book. The trap would be to fall in love with one teacher and stop thinking critically and stop studying various sources. But if you are serious about this work, you should get off your ass and go meet some quality teachers face-to-face. They will help transform you. Just don't start fawning all over them. And, yes, STILL read books and watch YT videos. Do not subscribe to any one teacher or teaching.

Cause that one sits under the whole pyramid

@Crystalous A grain of sand is infinitely large. Yes, thought is a form of reality. There is no boundary between a thought and a car. The substance of reality is one.

@ZeN Do not start with any high dose trips. Figure out how to hit a threshold dose first using your odd orange substance. Then, GRADUALLY up the dose in 5mg increments. Your dosing should look like this: 5mg >> 10mg >> 15mg >> 20mg >> 25mg >> 30mg Only move to the next dose if you were able to handle the previous one.

@vanish Be careful. Do not do anything to harm yourself physically. You are here to solve the puzzle of life, not to escape it.

@Edvard God is not happening through time. God has already instantly experienced everything there can ever be experienced. God just IS everything. It doesn't wait for things to unfold. Waiting for things to unfold is a human limitation. God has no interest or agenda. God just IS. God's "agenda" is to exist as everything possible.