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I think he's too busy fighting SJWs to have a serious discussion with me. Lol

Then why were the last two Matrix movies so terrible? Too much showboating, not enough metaphysics. Wasted opportunity. I was hoping they would go deep with it and reveal that even the outside-the-Matrix world is also an illusion. There are no AIs. The Matrix is not happening inside a computer, but inside another Matrix, to infinity, with no beginning or end.

@blazed Yes, of course. That is the Zen-master's way. He fucks with your rigid mind, to open it up. It's not necessarily effective though. Sometimes people just need a clear answer. Being mysterious and slippery can create misunderstanding.

Quantum Mechanics from the 1920's already clearly demonstrated this. You can lead a mule to water, but you cannot make him drink. Rationalists & materialists are not open to the idea that reality is virtual. It's not a matter of lack of evidence, it's a matter of closedmindness. But good luck to Tom.

Stereotypes, stereotypes, stereotypes. Women have their own set of ways of being unconscious. There is manly unconsciousness. There is girly unconsciousness. And there is plenty of overlap between the two.

Bahahahahahahaha.... That's the funniest thing I'm gonna hear all week.

A chemical substance.

Yes and no. You ain't enlightened, till you are. Telling people they're enlightened when they really aren't is very likely to confuse them so much that they will never glimpse enlightenment. The Truth is ever-present. But whether one is conscious of is another matter. 5-MeO is a tool. Just like meditation or yoga are tools. No tool guarantees results. Any tool can be misused.

You will go passive for a while. But then... After enlightenment, the laundry. Life goes on. Until it doesn't. Survival will still continue. Infinite intelligence will work through you to keep you alive. As it always has. The only difference will be, you'll be less egotistical in your manner of living. You will need less. You will stop grasping at things so much and just enjoy being. The irony is, surviving without ego is easier than surviving with ego. You get out of your own way. You let things flow more rather than fighting with life so much. You trust life to just unfold for you. And you stop worrying about death.

You have to really understand what 1st and 2nd order reality are, otherwise your words just turn into word salad. For example, when you are using a computer, you are sort of altering 1st order reality via 2nd order reality. What a human sees as "moving a mouse cursor" is really 1's and 0's behind the scenes. So really you're moving 1's and 0's, but the user interface of the computer makes it feel like you're moving a mouse cursor. This makes it appear as though "the mouse cursor" is causing the computer to do stuff, but that causal connection is sort of an illusion. It's always 1's and 0's moving around. Clicking on an icon does not cause anything. It only appears to. What's happening in these kinds of situations is that different levels of reality are being conflated.

@abundance Stop wasting time and just get to Pranayama already. And stop skipping days. Don't make a simple thing complicated.

The problem is, that's your ego-mind talking and desiring to manipulate reality. On 5-MeO the ego disappears as if it never existed. So all your silly goals and desires to go flying through walls or manifesting millions of dollars fly out the window. They are completely irrelevant and insignificant at that point. You have literally become God. Life is over. The end. Not only will you not care about money, you will not care about your mother & father, living or dying. You have awoken from The Matrix to see that it was all just a hallucination. You were never born and you will never die. The entire universe is yours, for eternity. You are everything in existence. The power of this is so enormous, you are shaking and crying like a baby.

Definitely! Piece of cake. Start visualizing it. Then get off your ass and create it. You can visualize yourself buying a plane ticket, getting on a plane, flying to Mexico, and doing a 5-MeO session with Octavio Rettig or some other shaman. Just as an example.

God is EVERYTHING. EVERY. POSSIBLE. THING. You can't have EVERYTHING without having suffering, confusion, and death. You are describing present reality. The only reason you're not seeing this heaven, is because you keep insisting that you are an ego. An ego cannot feel heaven because the point of an ego is to be constantly struggling for its survival. Love and joy is all there is. But ego cannot see it that way. It's like, you are in the middle of heaven, but you keep telling yourself you're in hell. Even God cannot help you to see heaven if you keep telling yourself in your mind that it's hell. It's sort of like you're a billionaire, but you keep whining that you still don't have enough money, because you haven't realized that no amount of money will ever be enough to satisfy you. So you're miserable and depressed even though you have more money than you could ever spend. Also keep in mind that without the illusion of suffering and death and meaning, your life would be rather boring. There would be no reason to do anything.

@Alien A) Of course any insight had while tripping can be had without tripping. B) Don't confuse an intellectual insight of the mind with Direct Consciousness. It's one thing to imagine that the universe is infinite. That's easy. Anyone child can do that. It's a totally nother thing to actually become infinite yourself and transcend your mortality. You should make a distinction between intellectual realizations and changes to your physical level of being. You can think about infinity all day long. But that is not infinity. That is finity.

Great topic! Flushes the heretics out into the open I never said you should eat only vegetables. Belief is NOT direct experience. All conspiracy theories are beliefs. This is the exact opposite of direct experience. And direct experience is way different than ordinary experience. Direct experience is direct consciousness. It is not ordinary human experience. Direct consciousness means you BECOME the truth, directly. It transcends perception or knowledge. The only way to access Truth is via direct consciousness. You cannot access it via belief, knowledge, theory, science, or human perception.

Of course language is also a human invention. That's the point: mind is limited and cannot be used to access God. Finger pointing to the moon.

But in Peterson's case, he seems to genuinely believe his own moralizing. Which is why he gets a bit preachy about it. It's a classic religious trap and it's holding him back from a deeper understanding of God and consciousness. To become truly spiritual, you have to surrender moralizing and intellectual position-taking.

It's silly to combine yoga and psychedelics at the same time. Yoga is a disciplined routine. You do it by the book. Psychedelics will only interfere with that. And when you're on a psychedelic, you don't need yoga at that moment. You surrender to the trip and let it take you.

No, it's a lot deeper than recreation. Everything is a preference. Even enlightenment is a preference. There's no imperative to be enlightened. You're basically doing it for shit and giggles. Out of all the ways you could utilize your time, psychedelics are one of the best (relatively speaking). And they produce lots of growth. Enlightenment is not the only game in town. There's also psychological growth, emotional maturity, shadow work, etc.

@Salih Tugsal Cool, thanks for sharing!

This is far too flippant and dismissive. It's easy for Sadhguru to be dismissive because he's already massively enlightened. But normal folk aren't even close. So for them, psychedelics can be life-changing. It's easy for Arnold Schwarzenegger to say that benching 50 lbs is a waste of time. Because he can bench 700 lbs. But are you anywhere near his level? 95% of Sadhguru's students have no idea what enlightenment is, and will never even come close to tasting it in their lifetime, I would bet. How many and what kinds of psychedelics has Sadhguru done? It is helpful. I just said it isn't a reliable way to rewire the brain. I have no idea what the future holds. But I see no reason to quit psychedelics on principle. Even if they don't produce a permanent enlightenment, they are still highly worthwhile and fascinating to explore. Not everything has to be purely utilitarian. You can do psychedelics just because you enjoy exploring different dimensions of consciousness, in the same way that people like to go hiking or traveling to other countries. It's better to spend 8 hours on LSD than 8 hours watching TV or 8 hours working in a cubicle.

@Spinoza You simply misread my blog post. Jordan Peterson is a moralist. He believes in morality, value, and meaning. And what I was saying in the blog post was those things are inventions. Absolute Being does not have meaning or value. There's no contradiction. My wording in the blog post was just ambiguous to you, especially since you didn't watch the actual debate. Peterson is wrong because he believes evil exists. Or at least that's what it sounds like he believes, to me.

It will be very difficult to use psychedelics alone to produce enlightenment. It just won't work for most people I think because the effects tend to be temporary. Yoga is the more reliable method. With psychedelics as booster shots along the way. The issue is that the brain needs to be permanently rewired, and psychedelics will generally not do that. Yoga produces permanent rewiring. I've had amazing insights on 5-MeO-DMT. But a permanent enlightenment has proven elusive. The ego-mind returns.

Don't confuse mystics with con-artists. Those are two separate things. Con-artistry is certainly a thing.