Leo Gura

Enough personal sniping. Please keep your conversations productive.

Rectal or snort, doesn't make much difference, as long as you don't lose any of the substance to drip. Rectal is the far superior method vs snorting. It might take a few tries to perfect the method. Took me about 5 tries to really get the method down. Sometimes, if it's injected too shallow, it doesn't work as well.

@Isaac Ben Hard to say. Some people seem to report that 5-MeO doesn't work effectively on them. I think this is due to two key factors: 1) your brain chemistry, which is slightly different for everyone, 2) your level of mental and spiritual development. I think 5-MeO works much more effectively on certain kinds of minds than others. Also, I think it's not enough to just take 5-MeO, it's also very important to existentially question reality. If you are not deeply questioning the nature of your reality all the time, then psychedelics will probably not be very profound for you. How much self-inquiry have you done? 25mg is a very strong dose for me. It's almost unbearably infinite. At 25mg, I cannot even remember that I ever existed. All notion of personal self disappears in a very shocking way. But also keep in mind, that I had to build up to this. I didn't get that on my first or second trip. It took many trips on various substances to get to this point. And I was doing a lot of existential/metaphysical questioning along the way. Also, people have different tolerances for psychedelics. That 5-MeO powder looks fairly clean. It would be good if you had a sense of how sensitive/tolerant you are towards other psychedelics, like mushrooms or LSD. That would help you understand your 5-MeO experiences.

@Gerhard I have to slowly build up my yoga because I have some issues with chronically blocked sinuses and sore throat. So yoga has proven challenging for me. Sure, lots of yoga can work. You just gotta build up to it. And I did not come at this enlightenment thing from a yoga background, I came at it from a self-inquiry background. But also, keep in mind, a state of Samadhi is not enlightenment.

"Evidence" is virtual.

@Pouya A philosophy -- even if it is true -- is not the same thing as reality. The map is not the territory.

@zikzak You guys are just talking past one another. Using different words for similar things. Also, keep in mind, there are various degrees of liberation and enlightenment. Is Martin as awake as someone like Sadhguru? Obvious not. But that's not something to hold against him. I'd say he's done pretty well for himself given the fact that he hasn't done 40 years of full-time practice. You gotta compare realistically. Comparing yourself to someone like Sadhguru is absurd. You might as well start comparing yourself to Schwarzenegger. You ain't ever gonna get to his level if you're hanging around on this forum. You would have to dedicate your entire life to that. And you should have started back when you were 12 years old. You need to temper your expectations proportionally to how many hours per day you're ready to invest in this work.

Isn't it interesting how that can read two ways? 1) Become enlightened, 2) Create an Islamic state.

Feels more like I got fucked by Matrix 3.

@MM1988 Note to self: Wake the fuck up!

Then why does it have such a shitty metacritic score? http://www.metacritic.com/movie/the-matrix-revolutions And I still regret watching it 15 years later.

From what I can tell after questioning him fairly in-depthly in private communications. Yes. Although it seems he got very lucky because he himself does not know a single other person who has become enlightened after 5-MeO. I think Martin was just primed and ready for it, and the 5-MeO pushed him over the edge. He did about 10 trips plus some dozen N,N-DMT trips. And he smokes it, so they were probably some very powerful trips.

Saying "Reality is virtual" is identical to saying "Reality is Nothing" or "Reality is an illusion" or "Reality is a hallucination" or "Reality is consciousness". Although I don't think Campbell actually realizes that it's not only virtual, but also infinite, and that time is NOT fundamental. I don't consider Campbell enlightened. Although his teachings are quite good. He's missing the final crowning insight of nonduality.

I think he's too busy fighting SJWs to have a serious discussion with me. Lol

Then why were the last two Matrix movies so terrible? Too much showboating, not enough metaphysics. Wasted opportunity. I was hoping they would go deep with it and reveal that even the outside-the-Matrix world is also an illusion. There are no AIs. The Matrix is not happening inside a computer, but inside another Matrix, to infinity, with no beginning or end.

@blazed Yes, of course. That is the Zen-master's way. He fucks with your rigid mind, to open it up. It's not necessarily effective though. Sometimes people just need a clear answer. Being mysterious and slippery can create misunderstanding.

Quantum Mechanics from the 1920's already clearly demonstrated this. You can lead a mule to water, but you cannot make him drink. Rationalists & materialists are not open to the idea that reality is virtual. It's not a matter of lack of evidence, it's a matter of closedmindness. But good luck to Tom.

Stereotypes, stereotypes, stereotypes. Women have their own set of ways of being unconscious. There is manly unconsciousness. There is girly unconsciousness. And there is plenty of overlap between the two.

Bahahahahahahaha.... That's the funniest thing I'm gonna hear all week.

A chemical substance.

Yes and no. You ain't enlightened, till you are. Telling people they're enlightened when they really aren't is very likely to confuse them so much that they will never glimpse enlightenment. The Truth is ever-present. But whether one is conscious of is another matter. 5-MeO is a tool. Just like meditation or yoga are tools. No tool guarantees results. Any tool can be misused.

You will go passive for a while. But then... After enlightenment, the laundry. Life goes on. Until it doesn't. Survival will still continue. Infinite intelligence will work through you to keep you alive. As it always has. The only difference will be, you'll be less egotistical in your manner of living. You will need less. You will stop grasping at things so much and just enjoy being. The irony is, surviving without ego is easier than surviving with ego. You get out of your own way. You let things flow more rather than fighting with life so much. You trust life to just unfold for you. And you stop worrying about death.

You have to really understand what 1st and 2nd order reality are, otherwise your words just turn into word salad. For example, when you are using a computer, you are sort of altering 1st order reality via 2nd order reality. What a human sees as "moving a mouse cursor" is really 1's and 0's behind the scenes. So really you're moving 1's and 0's, but the user interface of the computer makes it feel like you're moving a mouse cursor. This makes it appear as though "the mouse cursor" is causing the computer to do stuff, but that causal connection is sort of an illusion. It's always 1's and 0's moving around. Clicking on an icon does not cause anything. It only appears to. What's happening in these kinds of situations is that different levels of reality are being conflated.

@abundance Stop wasting time and just get to Pranayama already. And stop skipping days. Don't make a simple thing complicated.

The problem is, that's your ego-mind talking and desiring to manipulate reality. On 5-MeO the ego disappears as if it never existed. So all your silly goals and desires to go flying through walls or manifesting millions of dollars fly out the window. They are completely irrelevant and insignificant at that point. You have literally become God. Life is over. The end. Not only will you not care about money, you will not care about your mother & father, living or dying. You have awoken from The Matrix to see that it was all just a hallucination. You were never born and you will never die. The entire universe is yours, for eternity. You are everything in existence. The power of this is so enormous, you are shaking and crying like a baby.