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@Swagala See, that's how tricky the devil's mind is. It convinces itself that there's nothing to awaken to, and goes back to being a devil while telling itself that it is awake. You are not awake yet. So the most dangerous thing you can convince yourself of is that there's nothing to awaken to. That's wrong. There is lots to awaken to. So get to work! The seeking only stops AFTER your entire reality collapses and you are totally reborn. Don't burn your canoe before you crossed the river. Awakening is not futile. It is very real and palpable. Awakening is not part of the game. Yet also not separate from it.

A devil who's aware he's a devil is no longer a devil but an angel.

Of course the truth is that nothing I say is truth. Or is it?

@Conrad Great work! Welcome to nonduality, where two become one

The difficulty results from the fact that awareness is nothing. The mind cannot grasp it in the same way it can grasp a wall or tree or a thought. So by trying to become aware of awareness you are really trying to realize Nothingness/Emptiness. Yes, it's frusrating. There is no way around that. You are being asked to grasp the ungraspable. Through lots of practice the mind must become very still. That stillness of mind itself becomes the empty awareness of awareness. You. Are. It. Try focusing your mind on nothing in particular and just let it sit there. The more it sits there, the more Emptiness will dawn on you. Don't try to grasp it. Let it wash over you.

@Aldo I got an even more guaranteed method: stick 30mg of 5-MeO-DMT up your corn hole. Enlightenment within 10 minutes. No guru needed. But be careful what you wish for. Can you handle the Truth?

We've heard all these get rich quick schemes before. Nothing new. It won't work as advertized. You cannot predict when awakening happens, or guarantee that it will ever happen.

So much gossip, speculation, and assumptions in this thread. You guys gossip like teenage girls.

This is a bannable offense. On your deathbed you shall be haunted by the demons of self-actualization

@FoxFoxFox Maya and Self are one. You cannot know Self without knowing Maya too. Not only is there depth but also breadth, and both are the Self, since Self is all.

What is there to say? Yes, you can learn to astral project and visit other realities. Many books have been written about this explaining it all and how it is done. If you are serious about it buy those books and train to do it properly. But pursuing nonduality would be a better use of your time.

Careful with nitrous. It isn't heathly and the trips are so short it's not worth it. Stick mushrooms. You haven't even seen 5% of its depth yet. The mindfuck is total

@kindayellow So it goes. People in Tier 1 are generally not going to react kindly to the Spiral because it means they are not at the top, the way they like to imagine themselves to be. Imagine how it must feel for a Christian fundamentalist to realize he is closer to the bottom than the top! This would be totally unacceptable for the ego to admit, so it will immediately reject the whole Spiral model. Tier 2 is totally outside it's reality. It cannot be imagined or even taken as a goal. It just registers as blank.

A) Formal study does not guaratnee understanding. B) I have talking about epistemology a lot, both explicitly and implicitly, so if you watch my videos a lot then you get the benefit of good epistemology even if you aren't deliberately studying it. C) Psychedelics of course help as well. D) I am working on a book which ties everything together, epistemology and all. So people won't have to weed through 2000 years of crappy philosophy. But it will take some years to put it all together.

I find such laid back positions terrible for meditation. But if you cannot sit any other way I suppose it's better than not sitting at all. Then again, you could practice walking meditation -- which can be very good.

Openmindedness is such a simple notion yet it's actually very rare and challenging for most people to pull off. The mind likes to cling to one idea or another, one position or another, regardless of what the idea happens to be. People do not understand how closed and openmindedness works because they are not taught epistemic foundations anywhere in school or university. So they overlook the importance of openmindedness. They take the process of acquiring accurate knowledge totally for granted. It's a tragic flaw of our education system. But its gives me hope that folks like you are getting it and going meta. Sedona is a cool place. Reminds me to plan a hiking trip there soon.

You are best off teaching yourself Yellow and above through independent study. You will learn more through independent study than in a university. Take responsibility for educating yourself. This becomes necessary if you want to grow beyond the center of gravity of your society/culture. Read 100 good books around this topic and you will be wiser than 99% of university professors. And you won't have to go $100,000 into debt to do it. In a sense, these days, universities are looking more and more like scam. It's not worth the price of admission when you can achieve better results by yourself at 5% of the cost. You just have to be self-driven and passionate about learning/truth. If you read and carefully integrate the 200 books on my book list you will have a deeper understanding of reality than 99.999% of people. And I'll be adding more books soon.

Lol! OF COURSE you don't like the idea of being Green. Which is precisely the obstacle which keeps you from the higher stages. You cannot get to Yellow unless you first fully appreciate the beauty, value, and joy of Green. Green is still your shadow which you have not yet explored and integrated because you are prejudiced against it. Of course you want to jump right over it into Yellow. But that would be too easy and you would miss the important lessons which you deny at Green. That is not Green. That's your biased interpretation of Green based off watching too much Youtube stage Orange prejudice against Green. That prejudice has infected your mind to the point where you cannot see Green clearly. Watch out for people on Youtube who demonize and strawman Green, not having themselves risen to Green's level of self-awareness. You have to be very careful to distinguish critiques of Green from below vs from above. Green does have some legit critiques against it, but NOT the stage Orange critiques from below like those of Jordan Peterson, Sargon, Sam Harris, Ben Shapiro, Dave Rubin, PragerU, Stefan Molyneux, the alt-right, Red Pill, MGTOW, incels, anti-SJWs, etc. Those are all critiques of Green from below. Stage Yellow analysis is virtually non-existent on Youtube so you don't even know what it looks or sounds like.

It sounds like you are making progress. Just remind yourself that progress is not linear. Yes, it can be very difficult to find financial independence. Then again, college degress count for very little and there are always interesting job opporunities available. Be creative, think outside the job, explore new avenues, keep an open mind, and cultivate hope. You don't need to know HOW you will resolve all this, just trust that you will. The details will get sorted out in the process of doing it, not beforehand.

What amazes me is how scientifically-minded people can be so ignorant of the limits of science. The irony is that it is highly unscientific to claim that everything can be explained by science.

Sargon is Orange, not Yellow.

It's not thought which is the problem so much as self-referential thought. Practical thoughts like: "Hungry, need to buy groceries" is no problem and necessary. Problematic thoughts are like: "Why did I screw this up again? I'm always this way. I have been bad my whole life." Etc. These are the kind of thoughts to eliminate or let go of. These kind of thoughts reinforce the narrative of the ego self. They assume a biographical self which is an illusion.

@SQAAD By this logic maybe you should wipe your ass with your hands, since that is the "natural" way.

God's masturbatorium. Carry on the masturbation.

They work on a small scale. They do not work without mainstream society enabling it. They also do not work as a mainstream society itself because not enough people are that developed/conscious. Mainstream society needs hundreds more years of development to get there. Mainsteam society IS THE spiritual community. It just happens to be at a very low level of spirituality today, like 3%.