Leo Gura

True. But it assumes God. The trick with crafting a proof is doing it in a way that would make sense to someone who doesn't already have consciousness of God.

@Daniel Balan Well done. Wishing you a full recovery.

That's such a trivial difference.

If there is a genuine falling away of doership after an awakening, that's fine. Just be careful with stories, fantasies, and beliefs. Stick to direct experience.

@Daniel Balan Yeah, he feels mature and genuine.

Be careful with that. Don't create a story of you not being able to control anything. That will turn out bad.

That's a good share. Thanks. That dude is ridiculously good-looking. If you look like him you don't need pickup. Girls will pick up you. One of the things I respected the most about Owen is that he is not good-looking and still stuck with game. The truth is that most dating coaches are good-looking and coast off that.

@Majed Jesus

You have too make mistakes for me to address. Hire a coach or watch pickup videos.

That's what happens when you are socially inept.

No! You're just delusional. Trust me. I've gone through all these issues. I know every problem in game. I can smell all of your mistakes without even looking at you. The smell of a skunk.

You learned wrong.

Don't give him wrong advice. - - - - - Just speaking more generally, you guys are going about learning to get good with girls all wrong. Unless you get serious about this you will fail and waste years. Learning game requires utmost seriousness. You must learn from experts, not just make up your own crap. Really, you guys need to be beaten with sticks for some of your behaviors. Trained like dogs to act correctly in front of women.

I'm a philosopher and intellectual, not a coach.

Yeah, but the problem is getting her to like you. This is easy for good-looking people so they take it for granted that everyone is like that.

That is creepy and bad game. The reason you are not getting results is because you aren't doing game properly. You need to find rolemodels who are actually good who you can watch and learn from. If you keep gaming like this, you will be stuck for years with no results. Game requires being ruthless with yourself about changing your behavior to what is required for girls to respond positively. You need to be socially calibrated. You don't just walk up behind a girl in the street and put your hands around her. You need to be aware of her safety concerns and make her feel safe. You really need someone to coach you through the basics. At least watch infield video of how to do a proper approach. Learning game requires serious attention to detail. Not just anything works. Most things don't work and lose you girls.

His HotSeat program is valuable. Any infield footage is super valuable. Him selling courses is not the problem.

Infinite divisibility is God.

You mean Actualized? My initial plan was just to use Actualized to get coaching clients. Then as I saw it was getting popular I knew I could sell courses. I didn't sell out because I hate that and because I had estblished myself from my previous biz so I wasn't financially desperate.

First time hearing this. Oh God. It's worse than I thought. He's getting lost in his own self-absorbed fantasy. The ego constructs a fantasy around itself, just like Trump and Musk. In a sick sense he's teaching the ultimate lesson. I was hoping he would outgrow the whole pickup thing.

Completely irrelevant. That was a right-wing policy agenda. This crisis is a projection of ignorant people. Why feed into it? If you distrust your government because something bad happened 15 years ago, you will never have a functional government. And the anti-Covid nonsense has nothing to do with that. It is just memes and mass delusion. To frame it as coming from a legitmate greivance is to give it too much credit. Covid was handled well considering how many people could have died. People have just rotted their own minds with conspiracy theories.

Such shameless ingratitude for hardworking people saving your life.

I don't use that word lightly. I only apply it to people who I think genuinely score high on a clinical narc assessment. If someone is a narc, to not know that about them, to not take it into account, is a mistake in analysis. Being a narc explains a lot of one's behaviors and motivation. It's not personal. I don't go around calling people narcs just because I disagree with them. Trump, Musk, Owen -- they have some deep personality issues and a lot in common. This not a thread about bashing Owen. It's a thread about making sense of why he backs Trump and Musk.

I'm not shocked at all. It's just what I would expect. Owen's whole life has been battling against mainstream PC culture which demonizes pickup. Wokeness killed RSD. Or so he believes. Wokeness is Owen's #1 enemy. Everything else is just a backwards rationalization from that. Owen is doing survival. That's what he's always been doing. What do you think Covid lockdowns did to his business? What did MeToo do to his business? You might as well have a gun to his head.

Look, we also shouldn't be too puritanical. A bit of corruption is okay. It's not like the non-pickup dating field is free of corruption. All sexual relations are filled with various corruptions and women do corrupt things to, and in the end guys need to get laid and women too, and humanity needs babies. The problem is easily addressed by just teaching some dating ethics and using some empathy. You can do pickup in relatively ethical ways.