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Good, this is called Wu Wei, or effortless action. Your spirituality is skin deep if it is forced, premeditated, or mechanical. The key is to make it a seamless activity of your whole life, your natural way of being. Spontaneous action from a place of surrender and presence is the goal of all our work.

It would help a great deal if you (we) realized that I = you = we Then we (you) would be free to use whatever words came to mind.

Of course awakening helps with detachment in profound ways. But if you can't teach yourself to attract girls I would not trust you to be able to awaken yourself. That's much harder. Start with managing the easier stuff.

Marianne Williamson is doing just that. I think she's still running. Her success (or lack thereof) shows exactly what America's reaction to Turquoise is. Pearls before swine

I'm happy we provide you with that important lesson here, and free of charge

Before you go spending a lot of money on that, I would doing a comprehensive blood work, check your hormone levels, and get a heavy metal provoked urine test using DMSA and ALA. Heavy metal toxicity is one of the leading causes of ADHD and other issues like that. You need to test for mercury, lead, arsenic, etc. If these chemicals are in your organs/brain they can serious decrease cognitive performance and cause all sorts of other problems. Blood testing for heavy metals is not good enough. A provoked urine test is necessary using DMSA and ALA.

You like that roof-dweller identity, eh? Careful that you don't turn into the hunchback of Notre Dame.

Accepting you are EVERYTHING. There is no devil. There is only God. God is everything. The devil is any part of itself which God rejects. Any time you say, "That thing X is not me." << that's devilry, falsehood, and delusion. Replace X with anything: murders, terrorists, rapists, criminals, aliens, whatever. Anything which isn't ONE is false.

Because suffering is false, same as fear. The only reason you don't like suffering is out of selfishness. So by trying to end suffering you are doubling down on selfishness. The solution to suffering is to stop caring about it. Stop trying to escape it.

Actually I never said that. You certainly can become enlightened that way. I just consider it an inferior motivation. The soul's desire for Truth/Love/Union is a higher drive than the escape of personal suffering. The soul actually doesn't care about suffering. Suffering is irrelevant in the end since it is a finite and relative illusion.

When you really understand this work a time will come when you leave this forum and my teachings behind. You use the ladder to climb to the roof and then you throw it away. You don't keep hanging around at the top of ladder chatting about the ladder. But not too soon! Don't throw away the ladder before you've made it to the roof! And there is more than one roof.

You are inside a hallucination. You have imagined your birth, your family, the Earth, science, humanity, all people, the past, the future, animals, atoms, physical reality, and myself. Your entire life is a hallucination. Wake up, son. You are not a human. All of your questions are too shallow and miss the point. Your skepticism is a red herring, a clever distraction from realizing that you are hallucinating. Every reason you have is just another part of the hallucination. No one can help you because all others are just your own hallucination, including myself. What a pickle you find yourself in... What you gonna do about it? If you beleive me, you're hallucinating. If you doubt me, you're hallucinating. Quite the pickle indeed...

Lol Who you foolin, devil?

You will never understand from your current level of experience and consciousness. You have no idea how deep all this goes and how far I have gone to tell you the things I say. It is impossible for a human mind to understand what I understand.

They are not the same spectrum at all. SD is a lot more modest and successful as a model. SD does not rank people in a simplistic fashion. It acknowledges that people are complex and occupy multiple colors across multiple lines. I notice that many of you here have not studied SD deeply. You have a very surface level understanding of it based purely on watching my videos, which is a problem.

Ego, ego, ego. Survival, survival, survival. Duality, duality, duality. Being outraged by and righteous about a thing is survival and delusion. This work is about truth, not justifying attacks on parts of reality which threaten your survival. Everything you attack is none other than your self. Just because you hate something a lot doesn't change this fundamental fact. If you have been hurt in the past, that is understandable, but adding ego on top of the hurt creates a spiritual trap. You cannot overcome evil through hatred or judgment. Never, never, ever. Until you realize this, you will be stuck. The only solution to evil is Truth. And what you wrote above is not Truth.

Spiral Dynamics is not just based on one man's reaearch, and it's a complex model that doesn't assign people numerical values for awakening, and like I always say, you need to understand that it's relative and has its limits. SD is much more robust than a linear numerical scale for nonduality.

You do not know the degree of awakening of any human beings. Just keep that in mind. That is what is true for you. Anything else are beliefs you have picked up from hearsay or your own speculations. You have no idea how awakened Ekhart Tolle is, or Ramaji is, or anyone. And even the notion that you could know is highly suspect. Assigning numbers to teachers is a dangerous game. It's extremely important that you admit to yourself that you don't really know these things. Otherwise you fall into a delusion of thinking you know something which you actually do not know. If Ramaji's mind is corrupt, then his scale could be corrupt and you have no way of knowing that. You cannot just assume that his scale is accurate. To assume such a thing would violate the whole thrust of our work here. FYI, Ramaji's numerical rating of me was immediately incorrect. He rated me too highly and wasn't aware he did so. You cannot trust anyone in this work. No one! Not Ramaji, not Buddha, not Christ, not me.

I am not disputing that. Just be careful with ranking people numerically. You will think you've reached the end by reaching 1000, but you will have still missed many facets.

I am warning you about the dangers of these kinds of models. "The better the model, the bigger the problem."

No, it is based on Ramaji's experience, which is hearsay/belief to you. You guys need to be a lot more accurate about identifying when a thing is belief/hearsay vs direct experience. Awakenings do not come with numerical values attached. Lol. This is not even Ramaji's direct experience, it is something his mind is constructing.

Hehehe... You will ALWAYS have that fear. That fear is not going to go away no matter which location you go to. It takes 1000s of approaches to start to get fearless. Until then, expects lots of fear. Approach despite the fear. Bus, sidewalk, cafe, mall, store, school... it's all the same. If it looks wierd it's because your mind imagines it so, and also because you are doing it in an uncool/creepy way. When done well an approach is never creepy or weird, regardless of location. You can even aproach a kissing couple on a park bench and have fun flirting with his girl. It's all in how you do it. You can even approach while she is with her mother and father and flirt with the whole family! Again, this requires some serious skill, so don't start here. The best location to start is bars and clubs because you can get away with a lot less skill and there are 10x more opportunities so you can blow up interactions without worry. During the day time you need to be much more precise than at night. Day time presents much less opportunities so you gotta strike with precision and skill.

@Alex bliss Keep at it then. You have a sense of what the right direction is. Try to minimize speculation. It slows your path.

Normal and abnormal are purely relative. It's very possible that a baby might be born to an abusive mother who feeds him baby milk poisoned with lead so he will grow up with a brain full of lead which then causes him to become a murderer. This is all part of reality. In a vastly complex reality, all sorts of fringe cases happen. I have never said that everyone is saved in the way you imagine. A lot of people are born into fucked up survival situations which are totally "unfair" and "horrific". But all of this is still relative and does not diminish the absolute goodness and love of reality. Love entails freedom. And freedom entails horror. Love entails horror and "evil." So it all adds up in the finally tally. But any individual life can get totally fucked. Spirituality does not promise anyone a good material life. Just the opposite, it guarantees that your material attachments will end in deep suffering. Which is the whole point of transcendence. No matter how good your life is, a day will come when you will be totally fucked. So transcend while you can.

Tis a mistake to take such simplistic numeric scales seriously. Awakening cannot be quantified or mapped on a linear scale. Furthermore, all of this is purely hearsay and goes against the core of this work, which is direct experience. You have no clue whether these scales are accurate. You are just taking someone's word for it, giving away your own authority. Watch out, this can easily become a deep epistemic trap which skews your whole worldview.