Leo Gura

Well, I can't ever be 100% sure about another human. But from the video clips I've seen, I find any other interpretation highly dubious. No grown man & mega-celebrity would have hours-long late night conversations with attractive boys, and buy them expensive gift, and arrange meet-ups, without wanting something in return. And it's obvious to me exactly what MJ wanted from them. It was more than hugs and play-dates. The dude had an extremely unhealthy fixation with young boys. People who like MJ's music give him a pass just for that. And you can't deny, MJ could fucking dance. The dude was amazing. But he also abused and exploited children.

Anyone mention Milton Freedman yet?

Lol I got a bag of magic beans to sell ya. MJ was sleeping with boys.

@Parththakkar12 Most stage Blue whites will deny that blacks are treated unfairly. They are ignorant of how systemic racism works and they blindly defend Murica.

Except there is. Do you want to awaken or not? It's a simple issue. Don't make it complicated. Right now you could decide that you really want to. And that will make a positive difference.

He was sitting in his own car just 10 minutes ago! Cops can't take that shit seriously. "Oh sorry, officer. I might have a panic attack which is why I won't get in your police car." This is a joke. When a cop comes to arrest you, you better obey or expect shit to go down. Cops can't be coddling a guy for 10 minutes to get in their car. This is not kindergarten.

Gross

You guys are really stretching it in this thread. Before you post examples here, go read the Turquoise section of the Spiral Dynamics book, cause you are confusing Turquoise will just flat supernatural stuff. That's not what Turquoise is.

OJ Simpson:

Maybe. We'd have to test it and see if it's viable. This stuff is not a matter of ideology. We have to test it to make sure it works in the real-world. I will support whatever is shown to work in the real-world.

People are nuts.

But now you're talking about doubling the budget of policing. Now you gotta pay a cop and a social worker for every situation. Twice the cost. If we had unlimited budgets, then policing would be a lot easier. The crux of the problem is that budgets are tight and corners must be cut. Obviously social workers are a good idea in non-dangerous situations. But it can be hard to distinguish which situations are dangerous and which are not. And also, it's gonna be near impossible to reform a criminal simply by talking to him. A criminal's problems run too deep for a 20 min conversation with a social worker to help.

The problem is that social workers are gonna be stage Green care-bear types. But someone like George Floyd is a stage Red type. Stage Red will streamroll a stage Green, unarmed social worker. You can't just send in a social worker because you don't know if Floyd had a knife, a gun, or was high on meth and would bite her nose off. You can't just go into a situation like that assuming that he's gonna be nice. He might be nice 98% of the time, but when you're dealing with such people every day for years, that 2% adds up real fast. The problem with stage Red people (who police mostly deal with), is that they won't listen to reason. They often have mental disorders and they are living in their own private world. Notice how incoherent Floyd's mental state is. His mind is gone. He cannot follow the simplest of instructions. Criminal types often have mental disorders.

I see a lot of you guys on here just repeatedly spewing bullshit. If I don't start seeing signs that you're actually doing inner work, I'll be kicking you outta here. This forum is not a place to mentally masturbate about stuff you've never directly experienced. If you are incapable of clearing this bar, this forum is not for you. I'm tired of reading posts from people who clearly have no direct experience of the things they're talking about.

Autism is not a singular thing. It could refer to many different conditions and structures of mind. It is not safe to assume that another's wiring is the same as yours. Just can you can feel loves doesn't mean that another can.

A good example of how fear becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. If he wasn't so paranoid he'd be alive today. It's also a good example of the kind of bullshit police have to deal with every day. You can see how this would test even the best cop's patience dealing with such people year-round.

The dude exploited and molested children. It's not enough to only look at his music. His music doesn't tell the whole story. He had a very abusive childhood himself which screwed him up real bad psychologically.

The absurd irony is that Trump did exactly that, and they love him for it! Their hypocrisy as no bottom. Lol

Don't forget that relative liberals killed the Nazis.

Many rednecks are Blue.

A few highly exception people can transcend chimp drives. But I'm not gonna bank on that when looking for a date. Sexual attraction is not a conscious choice. It is foolish to go into a dating situation expecting that the person you're dealing with is some kind of Buddha/saint. It's must wiser to go into the situation understanding that you and they are both selfish animals. This doesn't preclude a loving relationship. It's actually enables it because it is being honest about the animal forces which arise in relationships. The whole point of my chimp video was to get you to admit that you're a chimp. The problem is that people love to paint stories in their minds of how superior they are to chimps when they really aren't. The entire domain of dating is basically chimps in a zoo. I like being honest and realistic about that, rather than dressing up these chimps with pope hats and pretending they are saints. You are not going to change what makes a chimp want to fuck. Because the desire to fuck and the act of fucking is completely absurd and irrational to begin with. And relationships are equally absurd and irrational.

That's not going to work. You simply are not awake to what Love is, and nothing will help that other than a Love awakening. There is no use in debating or discussing Love with me. You either get it or you don't. Since Love = Truth, all the Zen principles which apply to Truth also apply to Love. The Dao which can be named is not the eternal Dao. It would help if you did a serious dose of psychedelic

There is much I am not yet conscious of. The devil likes to play innocent.

What if I said this: High quality enlightened guys don't like perfectly shaped big tits. They are just too special for that. They are above that. Only scumbag guys like that. Would you believe it?

I'm not sure. I wouldn't try to boil everything down to the Spiral. Just work on those issues independently.