Leo Gura

This is some good stuff! Thanks for sharing. Although I should add, I see plenty of egoic projection in some of these critiques. Students often become disgruntled for whatever personal reasons and need someone to blame and they are too ignorant to understand the position of a deeply mystical and God-realized person. My biggest critique of Sat Yoga is that I doubt there is a single person there who is woke other than Shunya. As you become his little sheep servant monkey -- you won't have the time to awaken. You'll be too busy pulling weeds from his garden. The way I evaluate the quality of an ashram is based on how much time they actually give you to meditate. If you only have 2 hours per day to meditate, that's a shitty ashram. If you get 10 hours per day to meditate, that's a great ashram. Before joining any community make sure you are not just being used as a source of cheap manual labor. Also, the large sums of money they demand, if true, is a huge red flag. That's one of the reddest flags of a proper cult. You should not be paying any spiritual guru tens of thousands of dollars.

That's technically correct. However, you do not have enough time in your life to embody everything. You can only embody a tiny amount of what you can understand. And it is not desirable to embody Hitler. But you can still understand him within reason without embodiment. Embodiment will always be a subset of understanding. You don't need to punch yourself in the face to understand that doing so is not a good idea.

How would you know? Maybe it's not all the same.

When you finish deconstructing deconstruction, you will realize that consciousness is Infinite Absolute Truth. You think you can escape consciousness somehow, but you can't because consciousness is all there could ever be. You won't understand how I know this until you awaken. Until then you will be under the illusion that something outside of consciousness can exist. What I am telling you is not a theory or a speculation. It is 100% certain. This is the whole point and promise of awakening. It is 100% certain. No doubt is possible.

There is nothing else. That's what you fail to grasp.

@FoxFoxFox You can have infinite consciousness without any of that. In fact, all of that is imaginary. People conflate these independent variables.

My patience for nonsense is limited.

Lol I don't even know why I bother casting pearls here.

Dude, your posts seriously lack nuance. If you keep going down this road of misunderstanding you will be asked to leave the forum. You are misunderstanding a lot of stuff. Spiral Dynamics is a relative fiction. I share it with you guys as training wheels for making some bit of sense of the social and political landscape -- without which you would be lost like a baby in the middle of the ocean.

@yannick Very interesting! Thanks for sharing your experiences. When I was there I definitely got strong group-think vibes. They worship Shunya way too much. But nothing I saw was a cult. But then again, my exposure to them was only 1 week long. All of Shunya's behaviors that I observed were of very high integrity. And he clearly knows this shit. My biggest gripe with him was his constant apocalyptic talk. Everything is framed as mainstream society is about to collapse any day, and this ashram is the only island of salvation. The people I met there were very nice, but they felt like sheep, not deep critical thinkers. Then again, Sat Yoga is basically a monastery. So you have to set your expectations appropriately. Monasteries are hardcore and conformist places.

No. It is not I who says their morality has an objective basis. It is THEY who say that. I say that all morality is just selfishness. Practical is just selfishness. Of course there are many people how have practical morality. The point of all morality is to be practical and to serve one's survival. But this doesn't make it true. It is a fiction. Not the same stuff. I know that everything is Good. JP doesn't. Nor do you. No, all morality is personal preference. The difference is, I am honest about it, people like JP are not. No two people in the world have the exact same morality. Which clearly tells you that morality is relative. Moral systems around the world and across time vary enormously. There are many commonalities because humans tends to have similar survival needs. Since morality is pure selfishness, people tend to be selfish in similar ways. - - - - - The core problem here is that you fundamentally don't understand relativity. Contemplate what relativity is.

@Need Answers The problem is you still haven't encountered yourself as God dreaming up the world. When you do, it will feel extremely solipsistic to you in a horrifying way. Talking about dreams is all fun and games until you realize you dreamed up your mother. Then you shit your pants and cry. Yes, a video on solipsism is planned. I am not yet ready to talk about it.

No. The difference is that I understand that all morality is invented and relative and selfish whereas JP and conservatives do not. I fully admit and embrace that my morality is groundless. It is purely my personal perference and bias. My morality is not normative nor objective. Not so for conservatives.

I am aware of this. But his couple of mystical experiences were not nearly deep enough.

Love!

I suspect it cycles around. You could be in Mahasamadhi for eternity, then pop out as a baby. So it's the best of both worlds. I don't know. The problem is, people who follow my work are not hardcore full time monks. So my work cannot assume that. Just by watching my work already admits you are spiritually lazy and not willing to work hard like that monk. That's just the nature of YT.

You are wrong that anything is wrong

Listened to one hour of it, got zero from it. These academics are like turtles. Be a cheeta, realize you are God and watch turtles no more

In the absolute sense you are free to hate your pain. The problem for you is that hate and resistance to pain just makes the pain worse. But you are free to torture yourself until you wise up. What you don't appreciate is that mankind is the cause of most of its own suffering. Education cannot come from the heavens, mankind has to bootstrap it from nothing. Everything has to be bootstrapped. This bootstrapping process is very challenging. Exactly, God cannot awaken unless God really wants to. So God struggles help itself. God put itself in this survival game.

Pretty much. Although for some people it could activate kundalini. But that is not its core purpose. If you boil spirituality down to just raising kundalini then you'll miss a lot of amazing stuff. Psychedelics are 1 tool in the toolbox.

A broken clock is right twice a day. I admit and embrace my bias for understanding. It is not a problem from my POV. It is my love and passion. Exactly! That's what my work is. My work is not designed to sooth your every need. You have to understand that teachings can have various purposes. As a serious philosopher my work cannot be simply practical. There is a higher purpose to what I do. You don't come to Albert Einstien and say, "What you say about space-time is interesting, but how does it help me feel better?"

@Gregp Don't just watch my videos, sit down and contemplate what was said. A single video of mine might require a year of contemplation. Keep in mind, this nihilism video is the result of 15 years of my contemplation and life experience. You could watch this videos for 15 years and still find new things in it. The stuff I talk about these days is very deep. Peole don't realize that. It will take most people years to realize how profound the ideas are.

I don't think anything will. He is too attached to his human views of reality. He would need to deconstruct his whole mind. He is lost in the labyrinth of his own mind. Being more conscious than 90% of people is nice, but also not nearly enough to be speaking about God or Love.

@Need Answers It's very simple: you are God dreaming up all of reality. The end. What you can dream is completely unlimited. As a newbie this will not help you. You need to do practices or psychedelics to become more conscious. If you want Truth you should be willing to burn every assumption to the ground. Including the assumption of other people.

@Gregp Rewatch the video cause you didn't get it.