Leo Gura

There is a serious problem here that if all the people with integrity resign over this, only the biggest devils will remain. That is a very dangerous thing. Once that happens there will be no one to steer the ship away from the mortal blow.

My fave quote about this is ironically from conservative David Frum: That's been Frum's pinned Twitter for several years now and it's absolutely gonna come to fruition.

In a dream, is the body real? No. It's imaginary. Your physical body is actually just a dense form of imagination. Note: I'm not saying that your idea of having a body is imaginary. I am saying your actual body is imaginary. If you look at your hand long enough you will realize it is imaginary. You are imagining the entire backstory of your life right this second. Your parents, all your childhood memories, all your past trauma, and your birth of course as a human. All of it is imagined by you NOW You have a body in the sense that you are imagining it right now. But you can also stop imagining it -- at which point it will disappear. Of course the ego does not have voluntary control over how the body is imagined. So you cannot just imagine yourself with 5 nipples and it happens. No. Ego doesn't not control that. God is imagining that you have 2 nipples.

Because he's already in a fragile state.

Good for him. Most Republicans should come to their senses. They kept underestimating Trump's depravity for 4 years. Now they can deny it no longer. The Republicans have been like that cliche sorcerer in every fantasy RPG game who wants to open a portal to hell to spawn in a demon, thinking he will get to control the demon and it will do his bidding, but of course the demon ends up devouring or possessing him and going on a rampage.

Do not post Facebook gossip here. It is cancer plain and simple and I'm not going to waste my time debunking it point by point. It's pure shit.

Honestly, that split already happened 4 years ago with intelligent conservatives like David Frum, Bill Krystal, Nichol Wallace, Joe Scarborough. They knew right off the bat that Trump was an imposter conservative and they opposed him early on. But now that time has come for the rest of the conservative base who were not so bright and prescient. Now they must choose between MAGA and democracy.

Anyone posting news or information in this thread, be very careful that you are not spreading propaganda or falsehoods. Triple-check your sources before you post here. Don't post random gossip from social media. I am not going to be babysitting you guys through this. If you cannot demonstrate an ability to check facts and sources yet you post it here like it's news but it turns out to be fake, that will get you banned. Don't share random crap from Facebook or Twitter. Fact-check it first.

Conservatives are gonna fracture now between those who have integrity and those who do not. Those with integrity will stand against Trump. Those without it -- the MAGA crowd -- will go all-in on MAGA since they have cancer of the mind. Historically this will be remembered analogous to those who stood against Hitler during his rise and those who denounced him as the devil that he is. Now the line will get very stark.

Why are you listening to such right-wingers who have clearly demonstrated themselves to spread falsehoods and propaganda? Do not post random right-wing gossip here. Otherwise I could post, I've been hearing from some right-wingers that you are a pedophile. When you try to cast this obviously MAGA movement as somehow caused by communists and Antifa, you instantly discredit yourself. Communists are not contesting the democratic process here, MAGA are. And MAGA will try to blame anyone but themselves for their despicable behavior.

Ardhanarishvara, duality and nonduality, yin and yang:

Obviously that's delusional. We're not gonna advance such things here. The MAGA cult is a small percentage of conservatives. You can have conservative views but be sure to distinguish yourself from the kind of partisan ideology found on FoxNews, OANN, NewsMax, etc. Demonstrate that you are not dogmatic or ideological. And don't gaslight us with projection and whataboutism. I would LOVE to see some non-ideological, non-partisan, sane, reasonable fact-based conservatives. They are a rare breed these days.

Like I said a long time ago, if Trump goes down, his ego is such that he will try to take the ship down with him. That's what we're seeing now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ardhanarishvara

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Mind what you post. If I catch anyone doing apologetics for Trumpism -- doing stuff like false equivalence between left and right, gaslighting about liberals, or suggesting the election was fraudulent -- you will be banned. If you have a conservative worldview, tread carefully.

@Hardkill I hope so It's crazy how razor thin US elections are. Especially when the Republicans keep putting up monsters as their candidates. The saddest thing of all is that these elections should be a slam dunk for Dems. Which is the clearest proof that people like Ken Wilber and Don Beck are wrong. America is nowhere close to solid Green yet, let alone Yellow. The rural parts of the country are shockingly regressive. The real question no one is asking is: as cities develop, how do we help rural folks evolve? If we leave the rural folks behind it will come back to bite us, as we see with Trumpism. Trumpism is a rural phenomenon.

Chickens have come home to roost Remember, ideology is not merely ideas. Ideology gives rise to stuff like violence, and genocide, and terrorism.

Umm... pretty sure the Hindus beat him by 5000 years Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ardhanarishvara

Not so. Even a headshot is survivable. And police almost never do headshots. Headshots work in video games but professionals rarely aim for the head since it's so hard to hit.

Most people won't even die from a single gunshot. It's actually pretty hard to kill someone. You'd be surprised. People can get shot 4-6 times and still live.

Also, dude, don't forget, most women are short! You can easily find gorgeous women who are in the sub 5'5" range. So ultimately height is irrelevant.

Don't take his numerical scale too seriously. Big picture-wise it's good. God is Infinite Love. You will find nothing higher.