Leo Gura

@spinderella I've heard this story about not trusting the statistics from my own doctors. But it's bullshit. Have you seen the corpses? There were so many corpses last year the morgues were overflowing. Have you seen how many corpses are piling up in India? This shit cannot be denied. Without a vaccine, 10s of millions would be dead and the entire world economy would come to halt. So watch out what silly ideological games you're playing. To your mind it's just a game, but for millions of people this is a matter of life and death.

You see... productivity is a counter-intuitive and nonlinear thing. It's not simply a matter of how much you work, it's also a matter of how deeply you rest. If you want to maximize your productivity you must learn to rest hard. That's where your girlfriend can lend a hand

Well, notice that that is your self-bias. The fact is that Covid has killed millions of people around the world within a single year, and would have killed millions more if not for a vaccine. Just sit and contemplate that. Why do you dismiss the value of 1 million+ lives just because you feel young and healthy and invincible? You don't consider their survival important. Yet if the shoe was on the other foot, you would. Why should your ability to spread toxic skepticism be worth more than 1 million lives? The truth is that it's not worth more. Which is why you lost the argument to reality. See, life has a higher intelligence than your ego-mind because it's not only looking out for young healthy people like you. The secret to understanding reality is learning to see that it's intelligence is much greater than that of your human mind.

All that 1000-fold about any scientific model.

Complete your realization: fighting the inevitable is also Truth.

Of course this is true, but so what? The nutrition is a cutting edge field and it takes decades for that information to get integrated into mainstream culture. Your time horizon is too narrow. It will take another 50 years for that knowledge to percolate into the lowest common denominator of the mainstream. Also, all social organizations have corruption within them, as all individuals do too. So, yeah, there should be no surprise that government institutions are corrupted by corporate lobbying. What would be surprising is if that wasn't the case. Again, so what? There is corruption and ignorance within science as there is in all human institutions simply because all humans are corrupt. Science will improve over time. What you have to understand is that survival will ALWAYS trump every other concern within society. Free speech is only a fig leaf. There has never been free speech. Your speech is only free to the extent that it does not seriously endanger the survival of the majority of humans. As soon as it starts you, all bets are off, and you should expect that and even appreciate it to some degree because if your survival was truly endanger you would not give a damn about free speech. Free speech is a luxury of people who are comfortable in their survival. If I put a gun to your child's head, you will stop caring about free speech. Well, Covid is that for many people. Of course the government should not be blindly trusted, as no institution should. But you have to be nuanced in your skepticism and not let it turn into cynicism and apathy because in that case you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. The key that you might be missing is simply that YOU ARE GOVERNMENT! Stop making government something "other". Government will only be as good as we make it. If you sit on your ass and do nothing, then that is what makes government suck the most. You can't create something loving and conscious by sitting on your ass. It takes constructive work. The biggest reason our government sucks today is because people have gotten so fat and lazy that they just expect government to automatically be great without taking any personal responsibility or making any sacrifice. If our founding fathers held this attitude there would be no country at all! We would be savages raping each other. When you say you distrust the government what you're really saying is: I distrust myself.

Political thinkers and intellectuals are generally very poorly grounded in consciousness, epistemology, or metaphysics. Which will seriously limit their political vision and understanding. And most nondual teachers are not very political or intellectual in their thinking. This leaves a sort of vacuum.. If you want a deep understanding of politics you should develop it yourself. Study developmental psychology, epistemology, sociology, psychology, consciousness, spirituality, metaphysics, holism, systems thinking, and all the political ideologies. Then form your own models and ideas. I will be adding a lot more political books to my book list in the future. But none of them offer a full picture. It's all bits and pieces you must assemble for yourself. The politics in the Conversations With God books are excellent. Turns out that God has excellent politics I have developed a very simple solution for that in my work: 5-MeO-DMT Why do things the hard way when there is an easy way? - - - - - - - I want to caution you guys: all the symbolic stuff Langan is doing, all the models, all the theories, all the language, all the explanations -- it can sound smart and wise and great. But NONE of that is the same as DIRECT CONSCIOUSNESS or AWAKENING. DIRECT CONSCIOUSNESS is NOT a language. Go for DIRECT CONSCIOUSNESS of yourself as God. Language is still part of the dream. Awakening is about transcending the linguistic, symbolic domain.

The science-like jargon in his theories is very unfortunate. I go out of my way to de-jargon all my teachings, he seems to do the opposite, which will make his theories inaccessible to all but a handful of humans. Even I can't stand reading his jargon. It's just grotesque and unnecessarily complex. But hey, that's his style and style is all relative. His papers certainly won't wake almost anyone up. Yes, of course. Yes, of course. Infinity is EVERYTHING. The end. You don't need a bunch of complex logic to get this. In fact, the logic is all finite and will keep your mind stuck in the finite plane when what is most needed is to escape the finite plane. The attempt to formalize or explicate Infinity is a fool's errand. Infinity is that which cannot be made formal or explicit. Infinity is irreducibly mystical and unknowable.

@Nick_98 The ego cannot awaken itself. That's the problem here. What's missing is a change in your state of consciousness. I suggest two things: 1) Rather than pushing, relax and totally let go during meditation. Do-nothing style mediation where you have zero goal to reach any awakening. Just sit. But do so for very long periods of time. Like 10 days in a row straight. Or practice mindfulness meditation with labeling as explain in my Mindfulness Meditation video. Also, ENJOY it! Stop making this process so grindy and forceful. Enjoy just sitting and basking in being. 2) Psychedelics. This would really help you break through. This is precisely why I stress psychedelics. It's a powerful tool for breaking through such blocks.

Of course a girlfriend is distracting. Then again, all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy Live life, don't be a robot.

@ZzzleepingBear He is speaking in the logic of Oneness. My direct experience validates most of his logic, although my direct experience has gone even deeper than his logic. However, you will never reach Infinity via logic. The logic of Infinity can only be derived retroactively once your consciousness goes infinite. A shift in one's baseline state of consciousness is absolutely necessary, and this is something his model doesn't really tell you. His model will only make sense from a certain higher state of consciousness -- which is why scientists and academics don't understand him but someone like me does. Or... just take a psychedelic and you will understand the logic of Oneness. If you also contemplate it deeply.

Life is bad for consciousness

I mean stuff like this: Watch your selfish and manipulative behaviors.

@jim123 Banned. Be here with an open mind.

It means realizing you are God dreaming up reality.

@StarStruck Do not turn this sub-forum into a hive of devilry for your personal sexual gratification. Engage in dating in a conscious and responsible manner.

I could say the same thing about the word human. What is the point of using the word human when you are actually God? You're just playing word games.

Did you really need to interview people about the Holocaust to understand that? 99% of the things you know you have no direct experience of. You've never been to Antarctica. You have no idea if it even exists. You never even experienced your own birth so it is nothing more than a belief based on hearsay. QED.

When it comes to politics though, this guy is dumb. Classic conflation of stage Red/Blue with Green:

Well, Japanese Zen masters supported fascist imperial Japan. So nothing new there. Langan lives in Red part of the country, blue collar sort of guy. So it makes sense.

Langan's understanding of God is pretty much correct. His intelligence certainly shines in the domain of epistemology and metaphysics. More so than any scientist or public intellectual I know of who is not enlightened. Although there is an even deeper understanding, which is Infinity/Love. Not sure if he ever talks about that, but I have not heard him say it. If you're going to state what reality is in the most clearest and technical way possible the answer is extremely simple: INFINITY And INFINITY cannot be modeled. Because all models are finite.

How about you contemplate reality instead?

Feel deeper, with mindfulness, breathe deep and slow, consciously relax tension stored in the body. Expand your capacity for feeling good/love. The capacity to feel profound love is not a given. The ego-mind is actually incapable of it. That capacity must be cultivated through mindfulness practice. It's actually very similar to feminine sexual surrender. Except you don't surrender to a man, you surrender to truth and reality itself.

Fear generates results by sending you scrambling into action. When you are walking through the woods and think, "There might be a bear around the corner" you are more careful than if you walk around thinking happy thoughts. Also, the highly conceptual and ideological way modern humans live is far removed from simple examples like finding foods in nature. If your only job was to find food in nature like a rabbit, you would have very few negative thoughts. Most of your negative thoughts come from highly conceptual, ideological mental activity far removed from simple physical survival. When all thoughts cease, there is no longer a "someone" within experience at all. Obviously there is no one inside you producing nor watching thoughts. Thoughts simply arise within a field of consciousness. Thoughts ARE the field itself. It is not even correct to say that there are thoughts vs a field, or thoughts vs a watcher. You ARE thoughts. Everything is one. There is no watcher as some object. Watcher and watched are identical.

No different than talking to a shrink. The feather may be wiser