EddieEddie1995

Spiral Dynamics and King Worrior Magician Lover (realizing my LP)

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Where would you map these Archetypes on the Spiral Dynamics model? 

I would say: 

  • Worrior is at Red and Orange
  • Lover is at Blue and Green 
  • Magician is at Green/Yellow/Turquoise 
  • King is at Yellow/Turquoise 

I plan to structure my Instagram account with these 2 concepts where I will teach through them. I plan to have different costumes, symbols, and colors on my videos etc.  

For example: 

  • Video about Discipline: I will teach it through Orange and Worrior
  • Video about Meditation: I will teach it  through King. So in this case King is combination of Worrior and Lover (Orange and Green) . I want to convince orange to meditate by telling them how it will increase their productivity, discipline and words that appeal to orange and then finish up with green mix where all this outward success  is all about love and connection (in an orange sort of way) . 
  • Video about Patience: I will teach it thorough King ( Let me just note that I will not limit myself with this concepts, I will structure my acc so I could do and be who ever I want) . So because I will hit Orange hard in the begging (I want to integrate it) , the video about Patience (King) will communicate that even though we need massive action , we also need space for love, for relaxation, because you are more productive this way(in this case, man is stuck in masculine energy) etc. And if you can't relax, and you are in your head all the time then it means you have problems with feminine energy, and you will learn about it through Lover archetype etc...

I will post  a video that I shut half a year ago when I started experimenting with this idea, just for you to get a sense of what Im talking about  (it is way better now hue hue).  People in my city still think that Im crazy LOL (their criticism made me grow so much) 

It is about toxic Red/Blue. I shoot another video where I explained Red entering Blue. In 0;56 I speak in English :) It is a line from Pulp Fiction hehe

I will mix in music, photography, film, acting etc. on my Instagram also. It  will be short entertaining videos, especially The Magician Archetype hehe !  (I designed Integration map for myself...Bravo Eddie, how cleaver!)  

Here is my Instagram if you want to follow the amazing transformation (realizng LP) and what I will achieve in one year :P : https://www.instagram.com/alhemija21veka/ 

Stage Orange Picture: https://www.instagram.com/p/CGVf8wblp8I/

What do you guys think about all this above? Do you have any ideas that you want to share? 

 

 

This is kinda separate from the post above, but, what do you think about this perspective? Until two years ago I had no education whatsoever.I was walking through life with all sorts  of addictions like : video games, alcohol, porn, weed and many more etc. And  this way of living (which was led by traumas and toxic culture)made me to the point of big depression and contemplating suicide. This suffering and closedmindedness triggered a full circle. I became radically openminded. This is why Im everywhere on the spiral right now in just two years. So I have two ideas here: 

1. Most of the people who are "educated" (Blue/Orange) in Serbia are very closed minded because: 

  • they already think they know
  • if they are questioned about their beliefs from above which is rare  ( Healthy Orange , Green) they lash out 
  • if they are questioned about their beliefs from below, they have already made up answer that reinforces their beliefs when they "win" the argument  etc 

2. But people who are uneducated, and are ready to get out of the rut (like me in a way).They will be radically open minded because the things they will learn will generate results they didn't have their whole life ( basic orange stuff ), just like I discovered self-help. It was new world for me. And in my case my traumas didn't heal until I started Shadow-Work, but my traumas forced me to work on myself, and when I found out that money and aprrovel(im generalizing) doesn't heal me  I was forced into Green and Yellow, which would not be possible if I didn't had that trauma and haven't  find Leo. So my point here is: 

  • Uneducated traumatized 25 year old will have more potential for selfacutalization then "educated"(some sort of degree) 25 year old. Does that make any sense? It is generalization I know, but my old friends that are stuck in the rut, are now becoming more openminded(because of my example) and willing to learn then my orange friends who have good jobs, cars, way healthier life style 
  • they will believe me (not everyone of-course...most of them will not, most of them will demonize me... Im talking about potential selfactualizesers) and do the work
  • Traumas are big motivators for growth if you survive the crash in the first place 
  • For example now ! I still have problems with Fe - Ti loop . And this trauma of what people will think about what I typed in this post forces me to explore other people perscpectives, which means... to explore myself. You see? xD
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I see the archetypes more like roles, and the spiral dynamics like degrees of consciousness.

It doesnt imply a direct relation, because one can be in the lowest spiral stages and be a lover.

And people often see a warrior as something barbaric and orange, but a warrior can also be green.

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38 minutes ago, Rajneeshpuram said:

It doesnt imply a direct relation, because one can be in the lowest spiral stages and be a lover.

I agree. The same like personality types.  Can you give me an example of stage red lover and stare red king? 

In my case I want to introduce people with the two models(I will mix  it up with maslow hirarchy of needs) in an interesting way, where they can go and study for themselves. I will give a lot of refferals etc. 

 

38 minutes ago, Rajneeshpuram said:

And people often see a warrior as something barbaric and orange, but a warrior can also be green.

I agree. And the  difference is big, because the worrior has integrated green. He tapped into the Lover archetype(which means he raised he's consciousness). Now, he starts to develop the King archetype, which is in my case YELLOW WOW ! :D Hey, stage green guy, if you want to be a better King, you have to start meditating and journaling!

Im looking it through the lance of "what is the highest development  of these archetypes". 

"Hey, stage orange guy! Do you want to be a better worrior? You gotta open up for more love, emotions, femenine energy"

 

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