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I'm looking forward to integrating these  spiral dynamics stages 

Stage orange 

Stage Purple 

Stage Green 

Stage Blue 

Stage Beige 

Stage Turquoise 

 

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On 10/5/2020 at 8:26 AM, Preety_India said:

 

I don't know how to word this question. 

This thought just popped in my head, that all stages of spiral dynamics are equally important. And something from each stage can be integrated into life. 

I think that at each stage, we can have needs pertaining to that stage. 

I can't think of specific needs. But it would be nice if y'all can add some. 

 

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Stage beige needs 

Survival

Skills 

 

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Stage purple needs 

Community needs 

Basic needs 

Not sure what to add here. 

 

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Stage Red needs 

Ego needs 

Not sure what needs I can include here. 

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Stage Blue needs 

Morality 

Foundation

Structure 

Balance 

 

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Stage Orange needs 

Achievement 

Reward 

Learning

Skills 

 

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Stage green needs 

Morality 

Egalitarian 

Unification 

Activism 

Democratic needs 

Ecosystem needs 

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Stage yellow needs 

Understanding 

System based 

Different models 

Integrating different models 

Pragmatic solutions 

 

 

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Stage turquoise needs 

Perspective change 

Structure versus content 

 

 

What more needs can you add to the above list? Input appreciated. 

 

On 10/7/2020 at 4:35 AM, neutralempty said:

Check this out: http://spiraldynamicsintegral.nl/en/overview-value-systems/

They elaborate the stages on there.

 

On 10/7/2020 at 9:54 PM, Raphael said:
  • Purple
    • Eating healthy
    • Minimalism
    • Basic relationships
  • Red
    • Being assertive
    • Being decisive
    • Quick action taking
    • Setting proper bounderies with people
    • Handling bullies
    • Imposing authory on a group of people who don't want to work and to do things together. That way they will unite and start to work and cooperate thanks to the use of force
  • Blue
    • Structure
    • Organization
    • Discipline
    • Having a proper routine
    • Politeness
    • Good manner
    • Family responsibilisies
    • Country's responsibilities
    • Solidifying group thinking so that people want to work together instead of caring about their selfish needs
  • Orange
    • Personal responsibility
    • Financial success
    • Independant thinking
    • Not caring about non-constructive opinions of others (ignoring trolls, bushitters, or cutting them)
    • Thinking strategically about life and how it will go for at least the next 5 years
    • Creating tangible results
    • Being optimistic and thinking positively
    • Creating a minimum functional material environment
    • Taking care of personal physical appearance
    • Having fun and being humourous
  • Green
    • Responsibilities for the suffering of all human being and animals
    • Respect for everyone no matter its cultural background, religion, ethnicity, sexual preferences, etc.
    • Humane and genuine relationships
    • Caring about the environment
    • Collective responsibility
    • Helping the poors
    • Meditation, Yoga, breathing techniques, psychedelics, etc.
  • Yellow
    • Understanding how systems works
    • Integrating paradoxes
    • Getting the maximum knowledge about the world
    • Studying very diverse sources
    • Learning about developmental psychology
    • No biased judgment, no strong emotional reactions to others positions in life and others judgment
    • Understanding differences, extreme, and disgusting positions
    • Interdependance
    • Interpendant thinking
    • Integrating the femine (for a man)
    • Integrating the masculine (for a woman)
    • Helping humanity by creating systems to make people evolve higher on the spiral

I have nothing for Turquoise because I'm very far away from it.

 


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Purple

Eating healthy

Minimalism

Basic relationships

Red

Being assertive

Being decisive

Quick action taking

Setting proper bounderies with people

Handling bullies

Imposing authory on a group of people who don't want to work and to do things together. That way they will unite and start to work and cooperate thanks to the use of force

Blue

Structure

Organization

Discipline

Having a proper routine

Politeness

Good manner

Family responsibilisies

Country's responsibilities

Solidifying group thinking so that people want to work together instead of caring about their selfish needs

Orange

Personal responsibility

Financial success

Independant thinking

Not caring about non-constructive opinions of others (ignoring trolls, bushitters, or cutting them)

Thinking strategically about life and how it will go for at least the next 5 years

Creating tangible results

Being optimistic and thinking positively

Creating a minimum functional material environment

Taking care of personal physical appearance

Having fun and being humourous

Green

Responsibilities for the suffering of all human being and animals

Respect for everyone no matter its cultural background, religion, ethnicity, sexual preferences, etc.

Humane and genuine relationships

Caring about the environment

Collective responsibility

Helping the poors

Meditation, Yoga, breathing techniques, psychedelics, etc.

Yellow

Understanding how systems works

Integrating paradoxes

Getting the maximum knowledge about the world

Studying very diverse sources

Learning about developmental psychology

No biased judgment, no strong emotional reactions to others positions in life and others judgment

Understanding differences, extreme, and disgusting positions

Interdependance

Interpendant thinking

Integrating the femine (for a man)

Integrating the masculine (for a woman)

Helping humanity by creating systems to make people evolve higher on the spiral


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Spiritual abuse 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

 

The A. I  can/will have great ability but it won't be conscious. 

Because it does not have a heart or psyche. 

The mechanical functions of the brain have nothing to do with heart psyche consciousness. 

This is the function of a spirit. 

Ghost in the machine lol. 

 

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My recent explanation on the stages of SD

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Your function is not to become stage Turquoise, but to tap into it and understand the turquoise perspective. 

Blue, Baseline and purple spirituality. 

 

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Millionaire spirituality. 

Diamond deluxe edition 

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But always remember how much you pulled through. That's always a source of strength

 


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I always believe that love lies in creating some form of hope

 


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Spiral Dynamics is very handy. 

And it's very basic skeletal form of spirituality. 

It's very easy to Map your spiritual evolution 

 

It'll speed up the whole spiritual evolution. 

 

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A turquoise system creates huge compassion based organization to help those who have no help. 

They play the role of the "the Great Provider" 

Turquoise qualities 

Provision 

Judgement

Abundance 

Supernatural help

Savior 

Open the doors 

Source of Hope

Infinite love 

Does not forsake 

Not frugal in mercy 

Shelter, refuge 

Help you grow 

Flourishing (not degrading) 

There is light that blinds the dark entities 

Has a big heart 

Generosity 

Charity 

Empowerment 

Safety 

Security 

Source of Strength 

Source of help, empathy and compassion 

Trust keeps your trust 

Companionship walks with you 

 

 

 

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Take it slow but take it strong 

 

 


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The Amalgamation of Stages of SD 

 

The Amalgamation of Masculine and Feminine 

 

The Amalgamation of Stage Orange and Stage Green

 

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The Amalgamation of stage Red and Stage Turquoise 

 

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The full Amalgamation 

 

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GIVE ME RED 

 

1 hour ago, Preety_India said:

 

A certain degree of Red is needed everywhere. Red has great meaning. 

A Red system is very much needed in a Blue regime, because when these regimes become corrupt and exploitative, there is nobody to hold them accountable, that's when you'll need a Red group that will use brute force to topple the corrupt system. 

A lot of blue systems are namesake blue. They don't actually care to put their constitution or laws in practice. That's when Red protects people from tyrants. 

People easily assume that Red means tyranny and violence. But violence and tyranny can also be used to protect someone. Poison against poison. 

Let's say if someone got raped and there was no justice, that's when A Red vigilante justice might be needed in a dystopian blue

 

Also Red can prevent such crimes. Like in jails if there are powerful red gangs, then some prisoners would feel scared to hurt anyone. 

In the absence of proper or accountable authority or a lazy useless authority that allows rampant injustice, red groups can bring some protection to marginalized groups. It's like a mafia that vulnerable groups by threatening the rich social groups that are exploiting the poor people. 

This gives Red a strong foundation to survive and execute their raw control but for better outcomes. 

In fact I have seen red systems in certain places that are more effective than blue in enforcing proper laws and keeping sociopathic people from hurting the masses. People feel protected. 

Rules are created in a blue system. But if there is nobody to enforce these rules, then it's a hollow useless irresponsible system that doesn't care about exploited groups. 

Tribals routinely use Red groups and systems to protect themselves from any kind of exploitation from governments or other neighbouring tribes. 

Red offers a protective roof. Especially when systems become too tyrant or unaccountable. It's like a Healthy Red fighting against Unhealthy Blue, Unhealthy Yellow, Unhealthy Green or Unhealthy Orange..

Certain people or authorities don't have the spine to go against or do something to the evil doers. That's when Red steps in and takes matters in its hands. RED has enough spine to go against the bad guys and take care of them. It's like Robinhood. 

So red should not disappear completely. It should always lurk in the shadows waiting to be called when needed to bring change through violence and control where other methods to tackle evil have failed. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Preety_India said:

@Fran11  I'd say a more healthy Red. 

An educated revolutionary Red. 

 

 

34 minutes ago, Fran11 said:

Well, I wouldn't consider an educated and consciously revolutionary person solid Red.

For example, Leo used Che Guevara as an example of Green in the respective video, altough he embodied the violence of Red.

But I understand what you mean, there are social situations in which violence, which is a Red trait, is necessary in order to avoid abuses.

That's why is important that we don't demonize lower stages and instesd integrate their healthy asspects and capacities.

 

8 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

@Fran11  sometimes you need those mafia like qualities of the Red to deal with certain types of people who won't leave their behavior despite being polite to them, you know what I mean 

Let's say if you have tenant who doesn't pay rent and doesn't leave and also encroaches your space or doesn't give up their bad abusive behavior, that's where you'll think of going Red on them. 

But the only thing that Red should be used in the right context. Often Red is generally used by Abusers/bullies rather than protectors. 

Most people would like to deal with a bad person in a decent way. But that decent way doesn't work. Thats when that bad person needs a dose of Red. 

 

 

 


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The stages I should focus 

Red 

Orange 

Green 

Turquoise 

 


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My spiritual evolution is doing good. 

So far so good 

 

 


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22 minutes ago, Fran11 said:

That's right.

Even people from higher stages sometimes leave you no choice but to apply some proper Red xD

 

1 minute ago, Preety_India said:

 

Stage Red works really good against stage Blue Chauvinists. 

For example in my country there are many instances where the government does not respect the rights of the citizens. 

They will make it difficult to get access to basic services like ID card. 

Government has also taken away lands that belonged to people. Some people were forcefully evacuated because the government is corrupt and they make some stupid rule to make people suffer. 

So often it happens that a very poor old person approaches the government building for a basic thing like an Identification card so that he can get his money in his bank account but the government agent refuses because of some stupid mistake like a spelling error on his document (but this error is also made by the government employees) and the person is denied his basic right to his own money in his bank.. 

In such situations a stage green activist will stand outside the building to protest or will go on hunger strike but the government is a ruthless unhealthy stage Blue that is using the web of rules to get away from their responsibilities rather than giving citizens what they deserve. This is the greatest fear with governments, of course because they hold more power than they are more liable for their actions than citizens. But the government Gaslights the citizens and makes them feel guilty for asking for their own rights on the grounds of "so and so rule is not followed by you so we deny you this right".... 

Stage Green is very limited. Because they don't want to hurt people. So they go around burning buildings and disrupting public property and some burning here and there. But nothing happens with such violence. The government still goes on with its Blue stage exploitation and justifies it in the name of rules and laws and regulations. 

This is where these so called higher stage Government people are actually doing more harm to the innocent public in the name of Rule 

 

The problem is there is nobody above the government. That's why there is nobody to hold the government accountable for their actions. 

It's like.... Will the police, police themselves or investigate themselves???? And the clear answer is no. 

But there is nobody to police the police. 

At this point, where we need stage Red to hold authority accountable through violence.. 

Since the stage Green violence of burning buildings and objects doesn't have any impact, that is where real human violence is needed to bring peace and justice. To teach a lesson 

So some person will punch the government employee. That's when the stubborn government employee will immediately do the work and not trouble anymore.. 

So this is where I think a stage Red militia group is born to tackle the exploitation by the government or the police. Like a mini terrorist group. 

But this is needed absolutely. Because the any form of concentrated power soon becomes corrupt if there is nobody to hold them accountable. 

So with a government that holds total power, you also need an anti-government in the background to keep the government on its toes and hold it liable for it's disingenuous actions to the public. 

 

 


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I have been stage Purple for a long time. So I know how that one works. 

I must say being at stage Purple is pretty exciting at first and always exciting. 

 

 


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