Meeksauce

Meaning of life - brainstorming

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But simultaneously reality having no meaning doesn't necessarily induce chaotic behavior or anarchy.

Most prefer a more calm relaxed non violent or chaotic atmosphere/environment 🤔 


“Everything is honoured, but nothing matters.” — Eckhart Tolle.

"I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside." -- Rumi

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On 10/11/2026 at 5:49 PM, Meeksauce said:

Would love to hear what you guys have to add.

My vote?  The meaning of life is:  "Nurturing oneself and others."

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21 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

@LastThursday @oOo Nothing is closer or further away from truth because there isn't anything separate from everything.

There can be misunderstandings within everything, which seem to create a "true vs false comparison"

There isn't a right or wrong path to walk because there isn't real meaning or purpose.

And without meaning there can't be right vs wrong.

In other words, reality is complete anarchy. That's why religion was created, to control the population.


I am not getting lost in word play that represents my view inaccurately. 

I am not referring to the absolute alone, I am also including the relative reality that is a part of that.

Saying you cannot misrepresent my view because everything is absolute is utterly childish for the same reason that saying it doesn't matter if your mother chose to feed you coca cola instead of organically breastfeeding.

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Purpose for human existence. 

From a relative human perspective, stated as simply, non-abstractly as possible, and over-generalising to the point of annoyance, here is my purpose for human existence relative to our present time in history and therefore the cultural cyst that we call modern life.

The purpose of existence for the modern digital zombie:
1. Looks maxxing.
2. Bitches/alphas
3. Social media influencing

The purpose of existence for the modern human-hybrid:
1. Self-created happiness.
2. Self-created intelligence
3. Self-created creativity.

For this triad to be entirely dependent only on itself, without external dependence.

This implies:
- consciousness understanding, regulation and creation become the three fundamental masteries of the modern human-hybrid existence.

This enriches all social ties rather than taking away from them, as it radically alters the baseline meaning by which social connections develop meaningfully.

Now people are coming together from a position of already being fulfilled, or at least working on self-created personal fulfilment, and are only looking to come together to create something cool, mutually beneficial, long-lasting etc. 

Many would characterise those three as unrealistic. But its possible. It's just about spreading the right knowledge, tools, practices, etc and creating the environments that self-reinforce those things. I genuinely believe everything exists already at present where its achievable by a really meaningful degree, and we're closing the gaps in every other area pretty quickly across certain demographics.

 

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21 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

In other words, reality is complete anarchy.

Your anarchy is my absurdity, I'm in agreement with you. Out of that anarchy something does crystallise however and that is meaningful. You yourself couldn't be less anarchic in your posts there is a deep meaning there.

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On 14/10/2026 at 1:40 AM, VeganAwake said:

But simultaneously reality having no meaning doesn't necessarily induce chaotic behavior or anarchy.

Most prefer a more calm relaxed non violent or chaotic atmosphere/environment 🤔 

It's spirituality 101 in most non-scrupulous 'textbooks'.

I feel you feel threatened by meaning.

Let's say there is a God and he came here today to tell the meaning of life to the both ( @LastThursday ) of you, would you be able to accept it? 

Would you blindly believe him?

Because at the end of the day, perhaps he's lying. And doing so without bad intentions. 

For me, you have to take both or more possibilities into consideration, that's just how my mind works. 

The absence of blind belief, while also being able to believe fully, that's a tricky thing to master but it gives you more not less freedom and you become less not more dogmatic and cynical.

But I'll let you have your stance as I said. I'm allowed to notice potential incongruences but for the sake of an honest discussion.
 

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12 hours ago, oOo said:

 

Purpose for human existence. 

From a relative human perspective, stated as simply, non-abstractly as possible, and over-generalising to the point of annoyance, here is my purpose for human existence relative to our present time in history and therefore the cultural cyst that we call modern life.

The purpose of existence for the modern digital zombie:
1. Looks maxxing.
2. Bitches/alphas
3. Social media influencing

The purpose of existence for the modern human-hybrid:
1. Self-created happiness.
2. Self-created intelligence
3. Self-created creativity.

For this triad to be entirely dependent only on itself, without external dependence.

This implies:
- consciousness understanding, regulation and creation become the three fundamental masteries of the modern human-hybrid existence.

This enriches all social ties rather than taking away from them, as it radically alters the baseline meaning by which social connections develop meaningfully.

Now people are coming together from a position of already being fulfilled, or at least working on self-created personal fulfilment, and are only looking to come together to create something cool, mutually beneficial, long-lasting etc. 

Many would characterise those three as unrealistic. But its possible. It's just about spreading the right knowledge, tools, practices, etc and creating the environments that self-reinforce those things. I genuinely believe everything exists already at present where its achievable by a really meaningful degree, and we're closing the gaps in every other area pretty quickly across certain demographics.

 


Self-Generated is a better term over self-created..

It's the logical place to head to as self-mastery increases.

Self-generated happiness - when we can:
> Regulate our own beliefs, emotions and agency: how is this not the logical conclusion to lead towards? 
Modern capitalistic toxically feeds from a consumer believing they cannot self-generate happiness or what's more sinister, simply believing all of the micro-beliefs that lead to that as a resulting conclusion a person never realised they even believe underneath.

Self-generated intelligence - when we can:
> Awareness over our own awareness and the ability to create stimuli in the moment and feedback loop over that stimuli across time allows us the capacity to self-augment between memory and perception. So how is this not the logical conclusion? 
Modern education has taught people to externalise their perception of the world around them and the subsequent use of their cognition, so they never learn the act of being able to self-generate cognitive feedback loops that improve their mental abilities. 

Self-generated creativity: when we can:
> This one's the most native to people's tongues and therefore has the highest likelihood of being able to achieve a full belief change here because many of the micro-beliefs they have are already working in their favour because we have many external realities that serve as an authority to give people the self-permission to have this as a belief.
> So the ability to imagine new modalities, lucid dream, explore and invent internal worlds, for the same reason we can feedback loop on intelligence we can do the same for the deepening of our own creative depths. Thus, how does this mastery not become an inevitable conclusion?

The reason I have framed them as "Meaning/Purpose for human existence", because intelligence, creativity and happiness in tandem reveal what the purpose is going to be regardless as to the environment a human is placed in. 

There is also a deeper truth here, "Self-Ownership". And the triad reveals that as the path where sentience as an organic life form becomes increasingly complex and sophisticated enough that its purpose no longer belongs to the world but the world it inhabits within itself. That's really the paradigm shift here for meaning and purpose in this regard. For millenia, human beings have defined purpose and meaning as somehow existing external to themselves, which is arguably fine relative to the time period and the level of our cultural and mental evolution, however as a natural progression of this triad, increasingly more advanced forms of Self-Ownership become the natural path that self-reveals through its own example, without ever have to point externally. It becomes its own reception rather than waiting for external acknowledgement or approval. 

It's so weird to me that there isn't already a proper demographic around this yet. 

Creativity could fall under intelligence of course, however people divide them so much or confuse the two that the distinctions there.

Creativity also cleanly implies that you're contributing to the building of the world, or a world. 

I should have also framed it as "Meaning (purpose) for Modern Digital Human-Hybrids Existence".

Because I said on the first page of this thread that it depends on the category of the meaning of life we're referring to, and that just continually differentiating between those categories, and improving our answers across them, benefits the brainstorming of 'ultimate', again, depending the perspective we're coming from .

Anyhow.

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