Hyper Normalisation.

[VeganAwake]

6 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

then what remains is Nondual self or Nondual consciousness,

The ego is very cunning though. It will attempt to then identify as 'nondual consciousness' often referred to as 'spiritual ego'

Very rarely is this trick of the ego recognized.

Ego = identification 

 

Disentangling from this whole identification misunderstanding is extremely rare.............like 1 in 950,000 rare it seems 😳 

[Mellowmarsh]

2 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

The ego is very cunning though. It will attempt to then identify as 'nondual consciousness' often referred to as 'spiritual ego'

Very rarely is this trick of the ego recognized.

Ego = identification 

 

Disentangling from this whole identification misunderstanding is extremely rare.............like 1 in 950,000 rare it seems 😳 

Yes. 💯 percent agree. 
 

Entanglement is unavoidable in this conception no one ever conceived.

[VeganAwake]

12 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Yes. 💯 percent agree. 
 

Entanglement is unavoidable in this conception no one ever conceived.

Yep,

It's totally illogical and ridiculous because essentially what's being said is......."nothing is identified as being nothing"

Ego thinks being nobody is special and then subtly identifies as being nobody 🤣

[VeganAwake]

A total illusion of identity clearly seen through by nothing 🤯

Try selling that one 🤣

[Wilhelm44]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

That’s a good explanation. Here’s mine:

I like your definition also.

But can you now see that we are giving different definitions for the self.

For example you said something about a chief preferring 3 wives etc.

And I clearly said that preferences and survival instincts don't fall away.

So to say that it's impossible for the self to fall away, you are only talking about your definition of the self.

Not the same self as what fell away for Jim or Mellowmarsh or VeganAwake etc.

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Wilhelm44

[Wilhelm44]

21 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

The heavy sense of a separate vulnerable identity trying to defend itself “ falls away “ 

Thank you

[Wilhelm44]

52 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

The ego is very cunning though. It will attempt to then identify as 'nondual consciousness' often referred to as 'spiritual ego'

Very rarely is this trick of the ego recognized.

Ego = identification 

 

Disentangling from this whole identification misunderstanding is extremely rare.............like 1 in 950,000 rare it seems 😳 

So that ego that wants to identify with nondual consciousness can also 'fall away' eventually ?

But until it does there's not much we can do but notice it I guess.

Does it just run out of steam eventually ?

Edited 1 hour ago by Wilhelm44

[Wilhelm44]

Definition of self, ego etc seems to be quite tricky.