What red pill books are actually good?

[LordFall]

7 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Since I discovered this egregor I have become paranoid and I am afraid of appearing “simp” all the time.

It's important to understand the deeper mechanisms at play in attraction and not just the surface level tactics. Some dating coaches talk about never simping or appearing high value.

I like the definition of simping that says operating in a framework where you're getting less value than you're giving out in a relationship with a woman. So that could be simping for IG models that don't acknowledge your existence, being the beta orbiter that does a ton of favors for a girl that doesn't do much for you, or even these dynamics can exist in a toxic one-sided marriage.

The greater lesson is to understand social dynamics and awareness of the world so you can recognize when you're taken advantage of. When your "simping" is reciprocated, that's not a bad thing that's called an awesome relationship.

It's also why it's important to offer a lot of value to others. People that simp usually don't offer much and think their interest in women is gonna be enough. 

Edited Thursday at 10:03 PM by LordFall

[TheBG]

On 9/2/2026 at 4:47 PM, Leo Gura said:

Rationalists love to rationalize all their biases with evo psych.

Oh, Owen Cook does that all the time now that I think about it. That makes sense.

What is your view on Owen Cook these days? I know he was instrumental to you in some way at some point, from a post I read a long time ago. 

If you could let me know what you think of his concept of "Holding Frame" as well, I would appreciate it.

[LordFall]

2 hours ago, TheBG said:

Oh, Owen Cook does that all the time now that I think about it. That makes sense.

What is your view on Owen Cook these days? I know he was instrumental to you in some way at some point, from a post I read a long time ago. 

If you could let me know what you think of his concept of "Holding Frame" as well, I would appreciate it.

What do you think of the holding frame concept?