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Islam and getting to the bohttom

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Whichever people, or... Whoever is into Islam... ya'll gotta start refuting each other or bring awareness towards what yous are sayin (your stance on war, and islam, etc.), or start a thread on it (assuming you dont wanna use this 1, which i welcome yous to use) and do it with genuine interest/curiosity and refutation behind it (As far as positing and refuting the opposite side thats refuting the opposing sides stance), because ya'lls keep gettin me caught in the center of two totally, randomly different ideas, and its not making any sense, in the greater realm of war and Islam... Which, i already knew that was gonna happen, but yall dont even have a thread for this, actively conspiring... taking place... Feel free to yous this as a platform, but please refute the opposing side (not me) for im not into religions, and i know less than any would who actually reads there bible / religious testimonies. Im independent. Im a homeless blind man basically.

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Paraphrase from Poimandres (Corpus Hermeticum): "... that which is in the Word is also in ourselves."

Greek Magical Papyri (PGM): "I call upon the Word of the All, that which binds heaven and earth, and let it manifest in the circle."

Plato – Cratylus (439–440): "A name is a likeness of the thing itself; if rightly spoken, it carries the essence of what it names."

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(cont.) Just to propel this forward — My views on war / religion are very very simple. If yous are gonna take over the world, then take over the world w/ decisiveness, but dont stagger us in the process w/ sillyness. Get on the same page as your compatriots — And do so where no one really cares, cause its not like yous are being judged by a not-God, right? Its all God, right? or no? Does God go on vacations? Like .. If everyone believes its Gods will, you have nothing to fear except Gods will. Which is not my belief, it is what yous believe, presumably. I expect yous to be on the same page if yous are gonna talk about a one religion / one god, otherwise yous are acting silly again.

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Paraphrase from Poimandres (Corpus Hermeticum): "... that which is in the Word is also in ourselves."

Greek Magical Papyri (PGM): "I call upon the Word of the All, that which binds heaven and earth, and let it manifest in the circle."

Plato – Cratylus (439–440): "A name is a likeness of the thing itself; if rightly spoken, it carries the essence of what it names."

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Yous have roughly three options, as far as how ppl are to see your stance on war, generally speaking, A) "Im illiterate, so i dont know that theres a real worry around war / and i didnt know the passive case was even an option, B) "I do treat war passively, because, they are their own persons, their own independent persons, who can make tough decisions whilst doing so on their own trip and w/ their own necessary judgements", C) "I think of war like 5-10 year olds do, like its a win / a triumphant scene of celebration qnd badassery... a perpetual win... and losing is not an option .. losing is only what happens in a fantasy realm" ~which i bring up, for if anyone were to lose, it wouldnt feel very good, and you might rethink said win v. loss conditions. It might actually change who you are as a person, like you might become a crazy person to others who dont yet understand what that feels like deep down. Communicating which person you are is the only way to get on the same page as your compatriots.

Paraphrase from Poimandres (Corpus Hermeticum): "... that which is in the Word is also in ourselves."

Greek Magical Papyri (PGM): "I call upon the Word of the All, that which binds heaven and earth, and let it manifest in the circle."

Plato – Cratylus (439–440): "A name is a likeness of the thing itself; if rightly spoken, it carries the essence of what it names."

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Is this about finding out the relation of Islam/any religions to war, or is this about broader relationship between war and morality? Personally I think war should be avoided by any means necessary, and regarding the neccessity of war in general... I'm not sure. I don't know if it can be completely eliminated. Maybe yes, maybe no. However, given enough distance of time between contemporary era and the era in which the past war was fought, you'll start to treat it like a kid, the way you described it, I mean when I play a strategic game based on real scenarios of the past I'm not emotionally involved and I'm just having fun. Which doesn't mean I am pro war, or think it's a good idea

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23 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

... given enough distance of time between contemporary era and the era in which the past war was fought, you'll start to treat it like a kid, the way you described it, I mean when I play a strategic game based on real scenarios of the past I'm not emotionally involved and I'm just having fun. Which doesn't mean I am pro war, or think it's a good idea...

Good. The answers, "Yes". Its about whatever you are willing to share / participate in, overcoming any stigmas attached... The answer is "Yes". And "goood", As far as your willingness to share.

Im tryina get some real muslim/ islam ppl thinking, for they are who keep stressin the significance of god and islam, but im the wrong pers. in their eyes, assuming they wanna cont., teachin me, for, im just a person getting everyone to think.

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Paraphrase from Poimandres (Corpus Hermeticum): "... that which is in the Word is also in ourselves."

Greek Magical Papyri (PGM): "I call upon the Word of the All, that which binds heaven and earth, and let it manifest in the circle."

Plato – Cratylus (439–440): "A name is a likeness of the thing itself; if rightly spoken, it carries the essence of what it names."

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(cont.) @NewKidOnTheBlock Like, i dont even sleep. I stay up 100+ hrs., just thinking into mystico-philosophico-wanderings... Apart from all of the art/language (so much so, that anything about religion and politics is very low on my register, beyond the bare-basic knowledge ive shared), and then i oscillate over that routine - over the course of a period or two, w/ the intention to get everyone thinking, wherever the needle may land; As the mean, median and mode of exploration / thinking in general.

Paraphrase from Poimandres (Corpus Hermeticum): "... that which is in the Word is also in ourselves."

Greek Magical Papyri (PGM): "I call upon the Word of the All, that which binds heaven and earth, and let it manifest in the circle."

Plato – Cratylus (439–440): "A name is a likeness of the thing itself; if rightly spoken, it carries the essence of what it names."

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