enchanted

All success is driven by unhappiness

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4 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Yes - I was expanding on a point, not necessarily arguing its counter. Sometimes people post to add in an insight that may have been provoked or a differing view.

I just don't think the only reason to learn something is because we are unhappy with some other aspect. It is an assumption this has to come from some place negative. What of wonder and curiosity as motivators? Enjoyment of the process of learning? Exploration? or integration - I might want to learn something not because I feel I have inadequate knowledge but to connect separate pieces and cross pollenate my mind...

I think looking at this process of success in some domain (here, as learning) as born of negativity is a perspective and not found in direct experience because "unhappiness" is self generated as an internal friction. As an emotion within conscious beings. We could look at unhappiness further as "aversion" - but this is a different claim.

Is a tree unhappy and expands up, grows leaves and photosynthesises because it is unhappy? I would say that is success (the tree gets to eat and feed itself via absorbing sunlight and transmuting it) but unhappiness is not required. 

Leo isn't always correct. I really critically assess his claims myself (as he wants us to do). Was "only" in his claim? I do not recall.

Cool, you also have a valid and valuable perspective that we love hearing. Thanks for sharing! 

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1 hour ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I feel like unhappiness brings the absence of success.  

True as well. Rock on brother

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