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God doesn’t sleep.

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14 minutes ago, Ziran said:

For the record:  the notion that all of reality is in perfect balance of good and evil ( net zero ) is founded on a hidden assumption that good needs evil in order to be defined.  But that's a false assumption.  Good can also be defined by better.  Evil can also be defined by worse.  From these 2, 4 are implied, and good does not depend, necessarily, on evil to exist.

 

Evil or bad are only a human perspective. Imagine an universe where there is no life that needs a sum zero environment to evolve, then no war for survival. In that universe good or evil won't exist 

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3 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

It couldn't create 2 things if it exists as a creator infinitely 

Thru 2 layers of abstraction, it can.  Infinite >> Other >> Others.

3 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

If God is infinite it already exist infinitely, then it already created infinite things

1)  The inner dimension is described as "words before they're spoken". 
2)  If the words are lacking expression, or manifestation, then the infinite would be incomplete.
3)  The infinite is always and forever complete.

Therefore:  IF, big if, God is infinite then it would possess both inner and outer dimensions of each and everything, and more.  The inner dimension of anything is the collection of its essential attributes.  The outer dimension are the many different iterations manifesting.  Both are happening simultaneously.

3 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

It can't be omnipotent because it can't avoid existing

Or.  It's choosing to exist.   It's equally plausible.  Agreed?

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Because it exists . It's impossible cease of existing because reality is, and non existence doesn't exist. If existing is possible it will happen, then it can't choose

Maybe it could change its mind, but hasn't.

? Any other objections ?

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3 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Imagine an universe where there is no life that needs a sum zero environment to evolve, then no war for survival. In that universe good or evil won't exist 

Sure, and, that imaginary universe has very little in common with the actual universe in which you and I are occupants.  This universe has life.  This universe has an environment which is evolving.  If there's no correlation between the actual universe and the imaginary model intended to make a point, the point fails.

3 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Evil or bad are only a human perspective.

Because in an imaginary universe, which is very different from this one, if there was a human life there, but there isn't, that imaginary human would have zero manner for distinguishing between good or bad?

Are you sure you want to continue arguing?

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