Solipsism - You will only have your perspective- forever

[Wilhelm44]

7 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I've watched you grow here and its been pretty great.  Was it Tom? Anyways you're a solid dude in my book.

Thanks man, it's Wilhelm, I get good vibes from you also.

[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Thanks man, it's Wilhelm, I get good vibes from you also.

Strongest name I have heard.  Might be hard to lose the self with a name like that.  

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[Wilhelm44]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

Strongest name I have heard.  Might be hard to lose the self with a name like that.  

Ha ha, since you brought up the name Tom, for you personally my new name will now be Sri Tom 

[Inliytened1]

15 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Ha ha, since you brought up the name Tom, for you personally my new name will now be Sri Tom 

Oh no its Sir Wilhelm.   Way way cooler 😎

[Wilhelm44]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

Oh no its Sir Wilhelm.   Way way cooler 😎

Thank God 

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Thank God 

Haha. Where ya from?

[Wilhelm44]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

Haha. Where ya from?

South Africa, and you ?

[Inliytened1]

7 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

South Africa, and you ?

Wilhelm..you sound like you should be from Scotland hehe.

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[Inliytened1]

8 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

South Africa, and you ?

Chicago. I'm boring.

Boring Dave.  But Wilhelm from Africa.  Fuck.  That's cool.

 

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[Wilhelm44]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Wilhem..you sound like you should be from Scotland hehe.

I have an Irish friend, it's contagious

[Wilhelm44]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Chicago. I'm boring.

Boring Dave.  But Wilhelm from Africa.  Fuck.  That's cool.

 

Boring, what are you on about.

You did something right in a past life to be born in America.

I'll visit again when Trump is gone.

(Heard too many horror stories of tourists arriving at the airport, and then mistakenly

get shipped off to go and live with gangsters in a prison in Haiti. Jesus)

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Boring, what are you on about.

You did something right in a past life to be born in America.

I'll visit again when Trump is gone.

(Heard too many horror stories of tourists arriving at the airport, and then mistakenly

get shipped off to go and live with gangsters in a prison in Haiti. Jesus)

Shit. Well how is the government where you are?  I would say let's not derail the tbread but in this case it's mine and it was on solipsism.  So I'd hope any communication off topic is welcome. 

[Wilhelm44]

Just now, Inliytened1 said:

Shit. Well how is the government where you are?  I would say let's not derail the tbread but in this case it's mine and it was on solipsism.  So I'd hope any communication off topic is welcome. 

You right, lets not derail the thread, all I can say is, don't worry, our government is way more corrupt than yours.

"Well precisely  That is what is so scary (to us) about this whole thing.  That there is no distinction between human and synthetic mind.  Notice that only solipsism overcomes this dilemma."

Please can you say a bit more about what you wrote here ? (quoted from your AI thread)

[Inliytened1]

5 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

You right, lets not derail the thread, all I can say is, don't worry, our government is way more corrupt than yours.

"Well precisely  That is what is so scary (to us) about this whole thing.  That there is no distinction between human and synthetic mind.  Notice that only solipsism overcomes this dilemma."

Please can you say a bit more about what you wrote here ? (quoted from your AI thread)

Consciousness is before you. No need to look to Claude or Jim.  Both are "other" from your perspective. Because all you have is your perspective. 

[Wilhelm44]

5 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Consciousness is before you. No need to look to Claude or Jim.  Both are "other" from your perspective. Because all you have is your perspective. 

And when you pop that personal solipsistic bubble you'll meet Jim in an impersonal field  

[Inliytened1]

8 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

And when you pop that personal solipsistic bubble you'll meet Jim in an impersonal field  

Well..I think he would agree that what is before you is all there is.  It is as real as it is gonna get.  Look around.  Look out your window.  Is there anything happening on Mars? Have you asked him that or would he say there isn't a you to know. 

[Wilhelm44]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Well..I think he would agree that what is before you is all there is.  It is as real as it is gonna get.  Look around.  Look out your window.  Is there anything happening on Mars? Have you asked him that or would he say there isn't a you to know. 

Totally, all there is, is This.

He would say it's not a knowing. Just This.

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Totally, all there is, is This.

He would say it's not a knowing. Just This.

Yes. We don't disagree then he just keeps words in chains.  That is the difference. 

[Wilhelm44]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Yes. We don't disagree then he just keeps words in chains.  That is the difference. 

Not sure what you mean by keeps words in chains ?

I think the only thing we disagree upon is the possibility for things to go impersonal 24/7 and to still be able to function, as Jim claims he does.

It's kinda pointless debating it though.

All I can say is that since I started listening to Jim, I have experienced a rapid unravelling of the sense of a separate self.

My memories don't have a sense of me anymore. And the sense of the realness of others is also fading fast.

No going back now.

[Inliytened1]

14 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Not sure what you mean by keeps words in chains ?

I think the only thing we disagree upon is the possibility for things to go impersonal 24/7 and to still be able to function, as Jim claims he does.

It's kinda pointless debating it though.

All I can say is that since I started listening to Jim, I have experienced a rapid unravelling of the sense of a separate self.

My memories don't have a sense of me anymore. And the sense of the realness of others is also fading fast.

No going back now.

Because again he isn't currently, or i should say, the lack of him, isn't in a state of depersonalization right now.  He was but now he has returned with the knowledge that he never existed.  Mysticism and spirituality are a real thing.  States of consciousness are a real thing.  He had the realization and yeah now he can share it with the world.  But notice something- "he" can share it with the world.  So I'm trying to tell you that reality is comprised of states of consciousness. He is saying its just this.  He is very limited with what he can teach you.  He might be very good at dissolving no self. But that is just one awakening.  There are more to be had.  That is just the beginning.  Have you listened to Frank Yang? A lot of folks get benefit from him too.  But it sounds like you are taking it in from all teachers and that is good.  That is how the nut cracks.

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