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The difference between pain and suffering & how to end suffering

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I want to share a helpful distinction in this work which might be already familiar to you.

pain is a physical sensation that occurs in the body which the human naturally hates and seeks out relief from it as soon as possible. I don’t think it can ever be completely eliminated from one’s life unless one decides to live very cowardly and comfortably by avoiding all possible discomforts. But you can see how it’s unrealistic. For example for you to be able to eat your lunch you first need to feel that itch of hunger for few minutes first ..otherwise you can’t enjoy the food .  Designing your lifestyle around avoiding all possible pain is just not going to work ..plus it’s gonna turn your life into Neuroses and OCD and constant anxiety and distress and limits your potential for living an exciting life . To live an exciting life ..like climbing the Himalayas you need to feel a bare minimum of discomfort which is just the trade off for growth and long term success.  You can’t ever get into serious bodybuilding for example if you are divorcing pain forever.

suffering on the other hand is ONLY mental. It’s 100% mental and 100% self-made . 
Suffering is mental anguish about imaginary problems. Usually concerning the past and the future and comparisons between different conditions. Like comparing yourself to that rich neighbor or that successful neighbor or that neighbor who has an attractive partner .

heres how to get rid of it. If you sit comfortably right now in your home without any physical issues and just be in the present moment ..there is literally nothing lacking . You are right now in the perfect condition and the best condition ever . There is nothing that needs to be added or removed.  This ordinary state of just being here and now without any agitation is the best state you will ever be in . Sorry to spoil it for you but it doesn’t get any better than THIS.  But if you pay attention at the back of your mind there is some sort of dissatisfaction. Maybe boredom. Maybe agitation. Maybe desires. Maybe fears and anxieties. They are there unconsciously and they run your entire life and make you miserable because you believe them to be right or worthy of consideration.  And they have nothing to do with any physical condition whatsoever. The poor man who works some dog shit wage slave job and eats dry bread for dinner suffers from it as much as the wealthy billionaire having a good dinner with his friends in luxurious yacht.  What they worry about or desire may be different but there is always something that is missing .  Once you get this sorted out you need to sort that other shit out . And then a third shit pops out which needs to be fixed also ..and it never ends unless you consciously make the choice to end it by recognizing that there is literally nothing lacking . It won’t do you any good to just repeat this to yourself but you have to figure out a way of recognizing  this . Perhaps through suffering or through disillusion.  
suffering is finished once you’re done seeking completeness in external things . 

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“God is the Alpha Omega .. the beginning-less  beginning and the endless end . 
He is the first without start . He is the last without end . He is the manifest actuality ..nothing covers him . He is the most hidden essence  ..nothing can grasp him .. nothing below him or more subtle than him .The ego is the belief I’m separate from god . Because being god is too good to be true .No matter how dark it gets or difficult it gets ..no matter how long it is going to take .. my destiny is the infinite happiness and infinite joy and love as the best thing ever ..God .  “

-that’s a me .

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4 hours ago, Someone here said:

If you sit comfortably right now in your home without any physical issues and just be in the present moment ..there is literally nothing lacking . You are right now in the perfect condition and the best condition ever . There is nothing that needs to be added or removed.  This ordinary state of just being here and now without any agitation is the best state you will ever be in . Sorry to spoil it for you but it doesn’t get any better than THIS.

Two things:

  1. This assumes healthy physical and psychological condition and safe & stable environment. A simple headache can make the present moment a terrible experience. Or even something more trivial than headache like a mosquito. And that's still nothing. Think about famine and wars and abusive environments, etc...
  2. It does get better than baseline, that's why we seek exciting experiences. The key is to not get addicted to those spikes of joy and to accept the baseline as baseline.
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1 hour ago, Jirh said:

Two things:

  1. This assumes healthy physical and psychological condition and safe & stable environment. A simple headache can make the present moment a terrible experience. Or even something more trivial than headache like a mosquito. And that's still nothing. Think about famine and wars and abusive environments, etc...
  2. It does get better than baseline, that's why we seek exciting experiences. The key is to not get addicted to those spikes of joy and to accept the baseline as baseline.

1-yes you are right. I did say that no physical agitation is required. You should have all your basic needs met and be completely comfortable and unperturbed with things like hunger or room temperature or a fly or anything like that .

2- it does get better than baseline but always return back to baseline ..and that’s what is meant . You can argue that a poor person experiences more pain than a rich person. My claim is suffering is equal between all human beings . There is no difference between a rich person and a poor person .


“God is the Alpha Omega .. the beginning-less  beginning and the endless end . 
He is the first without start . He is the last without end . He is the manifest actuality ..nothing covers him . He is the most hidden essence  ..nothing can grasp him .. nothing below him or more subtle than him .The ego is the belief I’m separate from god . Because being god is too good to be true .No matter how dark it gets or difficult it gets ..no matter how long it is going to take .. my destiny is the infinite happiness and infinite joy and love as the best thing ever ..God .  “

-that’s a me .

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