I find it very hard to remove the idea that im biological being

[Nevon]

5 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

Got it.  So you believe you are Consciousness. What do you hold consciousness as? What is it?  I mean if that's what you are then you should be able to at least pinpoint it 

I will replying bit by bit whenever i free

Lets continue the inquiry, we will take it step by step

Consciousness is this entire field that is here and now and it's happening to me, and it's aware of itself, everything that is happening within my field is consciousness, for example sound,visual,feeling,sensation

Based on direct experience, consciousness is NOT happening within my mind, the idea of consciousness happening within my mind is just a idea need to be drop.

 

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Nevon said:

I will replying bit by bit whenever i free

Lets continue the inquiry, we will take it step by step

Consciousness is this entire field that is here and now and it's happening to me, and it's aware of itself, everything that is happening within my field is consciousness, for example sound,visual,feeling,sensation

Based on direct experience, consciousness is NOT happening within my mind, the idea of consciousness happening within my mind is just a idea need to be drop.

 

Lets go back to something.  Forget your ideas of what consciousness is.  I want to know what you think you are.  Actually.  Like what are you Actually.  Are you a sort of abstract field? What comes to your mind when you try to describe yourself?

[Nevon]

34 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Lets go back to something.  Forget your ideas of what consciousness is.  I want to know what you think you are.  Actually.  Like what are you Actually.  Are you a sort of abstract field? What comes to your mind when you try to describe yourself?

If i strip away the idea of consciousness, im not able to pin point on myself, im genuinely clueless, I don't know.

If im force to pin point on myself, i am this entire field that is happening to me right now. This field is me.

 

[Jirh]

@Nevon

You don't have to remove the idea.

Just stay with the recognition that it is just that; an idea.

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Nevon said:

If i strip away the idea of consciousness, im not able to pin point on myself, im genuinely clueless, I don't know.

If im force to pin point on myself, i am this entire field that is happening to me right now. This field is me.

 

Ok that. Now I want you to zone in on that specifically because this is what you hold as your identity. But notice a field cannot be you. It is a field. So it isn't you.  If you were a field you would be a field.  

[AION]

58 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Are you ready for some self inquiry.  Let's go.

I’m ears 

[Nevon]

5 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Ok that. Now I want you to zone in on that specifically because this is what you hold as your identity. But notice a field cannot be you. It is a field. So it isn't you.  If you were a field you would be a field.  

Why a field cannot be me? This field is happening to me, ever since i came out of existance, this field it's been here the entire time its undeniable

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Nevon said:

Why a field cannot be me? This field is happening to me, ever since i came out of existance, this field it's been here the entire time its undeniable

By definition it is a field. When you think of yourself an image of a field, however you picture it, comes to mind.  But notice that is a picture in your mind and that is the idea of what you hold in your mind as you. That is not the same as you.  Notice this 

[Inliytened1]

15 minutes ago, Jirh said:

@Nevon

You don't have to remove the idea.

Just stay with the recognition that it is just that; an idea.

Exactly  

[Inliytened1]

12 minutes ago, AION said:

I’m ears 

What are you? An entity behind the eyes.  For me it was a hidden entity. A soul, if yoi wish.  But a soul turned out to be a thought or an idea in my mind.  So what do you think you are? 

Edited 8 hours ago by Inliytened1

[AION]

24 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

What are you? An entity behind the eyes.  For me it was a hidden entity. A soul, if yoi wish.  But a soul turned out to be a thought or an idea in my mind.  So what do you think you are? 

I am

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, AION said:

I am

So a presence.  Thats a thought in your mind.  A presence is but a thought.  How could it be you realistically  You aren't that  

Edited 7 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Nevon]

26 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

By definition it is a field. When you think of yourself an image of a field, however you picture it, comes to mind.  But notice that is a picture in your mind and that is the idea of what you hold in your mind as you. That is not the same as you.  Notice this 

No no no some misunderstanding going on here

1)im not picturing myself as a image of a field, im not assuming im a field, the field did not appear on my mind ,to describe what am i, it doesn't require thinking a field.

2)when i say field,what i really mean is this entire field of reality that is happening to me right now,this first person experience, this physical reality is me

So when you ask me to describe myself,im describing my direct first person experience, it doesnt require me to think or assume myself of something abstract image, im this field of reality.

 

 

 

[AION]

10 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

So a presence.  Thats a thought in your mind.  A presence is but a thought.  How could it be you realistically  You aren't that  

presence is not a thought

[Inliytened1]

5 hours ago, AION said:

presence is not a thought

What is i am to you.  Whatever it is, is what you identify as.

[Inliytened1]

5 hours ago, Nevon said:

No no no some misunderstanding going on here

1)im not picturing myself as a image of a field, im not assuming im a field, the field did not appear on my mind ,to describe what am i, it doesn't require thinking a field.

2)when i say field,what i really mean is this entire field of reality that is happening to me right now,this first person experience, this physical reality is me

So when you ask me to describe myself,im describing my direct first person experience, it doesnt require me to think or assume myself of something abstract image, im this field of reality.

 

 

 

Um no. That's where you are wrong you have an identity that you hold. We just have to find what it is and you have hidden it so down deep that not even you can find it. But that's ok. We will find it.  Again. What comes to mind when you think of you. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Inliytened1

[AION]

9 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

What is i am to you.  Whatever it is, is what you identify as.

“I am” can’t but put in words or within a mental construct 

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, AION said:

“I am” can’t but put in words or within a mental construct 

What are you.  I'm not asking you what God is. But you identify as something. You do 

[AION]

50 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

What are you.  I'm not asking you what God is. But you identify as something. You do 

It is just the witness I guess 

[Inliytened1]

10 minutes ago, AION said:

It is just the witness I guess 

Not I guess  its like this. When I ask you what you are something pops into your mind. Whatever that is is your identity and it must be proven false.