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Socratic Soul v. Parmenides Role

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I did a project recently on Socrates and the soul, which errs towards the Soul and Being and things of this nature (basically, a project on Platos dialogues, which of course are endlessly fascinating, in ways ill not express here to avoid giving too much away). Theres a history of the Greek term used; for that idea, "where it comes from, how its used",  within a ~ roughly 30 page book called  'Socrates and the doctrine of the soul,  Alas Socrates also uses the soul much like we do, for instance if anyone is a musician, we call these genres, 'the blues, or theres soul music, gospel music, and what do we mean by that kind of soul?

We also use the soul in ways that cross through the soul as either an intellectual form of, or the soul as inheriting a spiritual quality, or embodying consciousness / universe / exp., etc.,

And the Socratic soul is a generation after the more Ba / Ka, Egyptian spirit~soul / Athenian tradition (pre Homeric tradition), though ill let everyone investigate just what that is im tlkin about, As its like a movie and you dont give away the movie (inb4 the odyssey, the great movie that everyone is gonna pay $50 for... although, all jokes aside, i googled tickets for it, and it says its sold out, so ppl are really goin to see that movie i guess)

You can think on that, where much of what ill say now is gonna be ambiguous for the sake of letting everyone qualify their own perspective. But theres also Parmenides, a logician well-known for "to be" + "Being", things like this, or one might say so, and on, what is perhaps a very stressed version on what it even is 'to be — for he does the proper, investigation of such things from these tediously expanded angles; Alas, Parmenides is probably the more difficult of all the dialogues, and id suggest leaving dialogues like this, for last, when you can really let it sink in~wat is happening.

That is my suggestion. Start wherever, just dont staert w Parmenides, unless you think u rdy for that one.

Even though ive not expressed Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God, Youd be surprised how often they use "god" singular as an anchor, likewise, how often they consider making distinctions between things that one might say are \*spiritual v. reasonable (granted, it crosses through the idea of \*Forms, as opposed to a very strict "this is the logical thing [of form] versus, this is the subjective thing of experience (INSERT Parmenides @ this point, where, this is an incredibly deep and introspective place to have evoked and investigated things from, from Parmenides at one's side)

Anyway. Iuno wat the point was, cnt remember, but i think it helps in investigating mystical, metaphysical stuff. Also especially, it gets you to see who Socrates is, or rather, who Plato is through the illustration of characters like Socrates, who is mentioned by other Greeks too, so its not like these are fake people. They are verified as ppl outside of the dialogues.

P.s. Many scholars, at that time, and after, talk alot of sh** to each other too, so theres no end to the amount of name calling and overly expressed, negative opinions, much like today n age weirdness...

People often get Plato mixed up w/ someone like this, but youd be surprised to learn that theres nothing in Plato like this, alas you will only ever find a Socratic marathon, lots of wise individuals or interactions, and expressed through one, continuous dialogue (or atleast its better to think of it that way, instead of like "This totally separate topic A, that totally separate topic B, and that other totally separate topic C, D, etc, etc" The titles for each dialogue are ways for us to keep track of em all, so we have a way to organize it and think of it... They are very drunk during the Symposium, so from their perspective / circumstances, its not a simple, straightforward situation, in regards to how they are to get memorized/recorded... In atleast one other dialogue, it is actually 'someone elses memory that Plato is giving us, per \*their perspective on "What they had experienced" on recalling and telling the bulk of the dialogue, thereafter, where it then blends into that bulk dialogue... Plato & Socrates are my fav., so thats yet another reason that i think i want to ensure others see what i see in that realm)

Edited by kavaris

Paraphrase from Poimandres (Corpus Hermeticum): "... that which is in the Word is also in ourselves."

Greek Magical Papyri (PGM): "I call upon the Word of the All, that which binds heaven and earth, and let it manifest in the circle."

Plato – Cratylus (439–440): "A name is a likeness of the thing itself; if rightly spoken, it carries the essence of what it names."

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