Seeing through the self before adopting it's narrative

[cetus]

24 minutes ago, Hojo said:

Or life itself.

Nicely said.

[VeganAwake]

1 hour ago, Hojo said:

@cetus maybe my parents were my gurus. Or life itself.

Definitely 👊 &

Forgive them, for they know not what they do. 

 

[VeganAwake]

7 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

So what do you feel is the non-delusional life?

It's absolutely meaningless and unconditional. There isn't a goal or purpose needing to be met. Nothing required and everything welcomed.

Nothing needs to happen or not happen. And so in that sense, the so-called non-delusional life doesn't need to be recognized/lived.

The awakened reality and the matrix are identical for 2 reasons.

1) The matrix is an internal illusory experience, leaving only awakened reality as real. 

2) They are equally meaningless because when the body/mind organism dies, the memory of ever existing dissolves with it regardless of its prior way of life.

[Mellowmarsh]

7 hours ago, Hojo said:

@cetus maybe my parents were my gurus. Or life itself.

The real guru is life itself as seen through a mirror. . Look at the mirror, it’s the only true teacher, that’s if you dare to.

[Mellowmarsh]

4 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

It's absolutely meaningless and unconditional. There isn't a goal or purpose needing to be met. Nothing required and everything welcomed.

Nothing needs to happen or not happen. And so in that sense, the so-called non-delusional life doesn't need to be recognized/lived.

The awakened reality and the matrix are identical for 2 reasons.

1) The matrix is an internal illusory experience, leaving only awakened reality as real. 

2) They are equally meaningless because when the body/mind organism dies, the memory of ever existing dissolves with it regardless of its prior way of life.

Very well said.

Life has no needs. Needs appear on demand for them, so who exactly makes those demands, is the artificial sense of “ me” which appear as needy in a needless life. So the who, needless to say, is no one in particular, except in this artificial conception.