The criticisms of incel-ideology and redpill-ideology also apply to feminist ideology

[mr_engineer]

@LordFall No, about the bullshit they say about men. Do you agree with those points? 

About the cold-approach thing - I'll talk about it when I want to. Right now, its irrelevant to the discussion at hand. 

[LordFall]

It's a nuanced answer. Depends how you want to look at it. I think you shouldn't care what random people care about you and just reverse engineer the life you want. I agree that most men are underdeveloped yes but then so are most women so it's an irrelevant point. 

Men are trash. 

Men are the reason that equality hasn't been achieved

Men aren't loyal

Men as a class are completely privileged

Men fear strong women

All men cheat

(This one is my personal favorite) Men are emotionally underdeveloped

I'm just not really sure what some random women on an internet forum has to do with me building a harem with the most beautiful and coolest women I've ever met. I hope they use AI to fix their mental health and/or whatever other resources they have access to also achieve whatever goals they have is the end of my thoughts on men hating femcels really. 

[mr_engineer]

@LordFall Buddy, you have a very positive mindset, good for you. 

But, you're still not answering the question. 

Do you agree with those points that they're making? The actual words that they're saying? Are those generalizations true, according to you. If they're true for all men, does that include you? 

[LordFall]

I mean if you're asking for my personal opinion 

1) Obviously all men aren't trash perhaps only those who consistently inflict pain on those weaker than them.

2) Economic equality is a complicated subject that has to do more with macroeconomics and sociology than gender really. Men oppress eachother as much as they oppress women. It's the history of civil rights that feminism also belongs to. 

3) Some men are loyal some aren't just like women. 

4) Not true, in some aspects sure but most men I know aren't doing particularly well and for example now in terms of education and I think median income women in the west are doing better. 

5) I don't think men fear strong women they dislike difficult women that create problems for no reason. Or they do sour grapes and hate on women they can't get . 

6) Obviously not all men cheat I've never cheated and a lot of guys I know haven't as well. Truly a lack of character to cheat on the person closest to you, I wouldn't trust that kind of guy in business.

7) I agree with that one the most. Emotional mastery is complicated and something I struggle with daily to this day. Anxiety is a big one and misidentifying it and turning it into anger is common for me and other guys I know. Most women are also emotionally underdeveloped though. 

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