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[Mellowmarsh]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

It's very simple. The fact of consciousness implies the fact of being knowing that is. That is the self. What or who is knowing that is? The fact of being. Why? Because it's possible. 

Why being is? Because it's possible. Why it's possible? Because there are not limits and it's inevitable.

Then, what are you? Unlimited being knowing that is. 

This is the conceptual frame, then break all your barriers and open yourself to yourself, and you will see.

So I’m unlimited then. I never began or ended? I’m not human? 

[Mellowmarsh]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Just observation, meditation, openess to the unlimited, then making a logical frame removing what is impossible and letting the inevitable remains. I never took a single idea from anyone just because all of them have mistakes in their basis. The only mystic that seems not wrong could be Ramakrishna, and you won't get any idea from him, just inspiration 

So no one, no other person taught you how to read and write as a toddler. You just learnt to read and write all by yourself without the help of any other person? 

[Breakingthewall]

4 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

Reality is complex in the sense that it has had an unfathomable amount of time to become what it is today.

Like an anteater didn't grow an elongated snout and tongue overnight or the honey badger didn't start having immunity to certain snake venom in a few months.......

It's complexity is that it's had time on its side sorta speak!!!

Ah, then as the time is long, reality is illusion? Then what is time? Would be just a measurement right? Done from a process observing other process. And what is a process? It is an ordered sequence of changes in which one state gives rise to another according to some relationship or rule. And what are those rules or physical laws? The limits that allows the existence of change. And what is all this? The reality. And what the reality does? It is. And why it is? Because nothing prevent it then it's absolutely inevitable. And what are you? That fact of being knowing that is.

You want to call it illusion to feel better? Great, do it, but still you are and you know that you are

[Breakingthewall]

4 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

So no one, no other person taught you how to read and write as a toddler. You just learnt to read and write all by yourself without the help of any other person? 

No, the teachers did. And? What is a fact is that reading is possible 

[Mellowmarsh]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

No, the teachers did. And? What is a fact is that reading is possible 

So where did the teachers get their knowledge from. Who was the very first teacher, and where did the very first teacher get its knowledge from ?

[Breakingthewall]

10 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

So I’m unlimited then. I never began or ended? I’m not human? 

You never began an ended as the fact of being, aka unlimited being or absence of limitations that is, but this reality is always expressed, and now it's expressed as a human, but ultimately what you are is the unlimited. The conscious mind can be totally aware of it because it's the reality now, the absolute power is emerging in the form of you now, and you can see it with total clarity 

[Mellowmarsh]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

That fact of being knowing that is.

You claim this but then you talk about the unlimited infinite.

How could that which is without beginning or end know anything about beginnings or endings that never happened?

[Breakingthewall]

16 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

So where did the teachers get their knowledge from. Who was the very first teacher, and where did the very first teacher get its knowledge from ?

Everything started with a bacteria that creates a separation between inside and outside, then in some million of years some bacteria joined together to stole the energy from another bacteria, then a big war started , and some billions of years later a teacher teach me to read, to steal energy better and be the king of the universe, as a cheap novel of fantasy

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[Mellowmarsh]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The conscious mind can be totally aware of it because it's the reality now, the absolute power is emerging in the form of you now, and you can see it with total clarity 

I can know it, but I can’t see it. I cannot seer the seer. I can only know the seer in this conception as it is known conceptually.

 

[Breakingthewall]

3 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

You claim this but then you talk about the unlimited infinite.

How could that which is without beginning or end know anything about beginnings or endings that never happened?

It always happens, it's happening now. What the unlimited being knows is that being is, nothing else, anything else are variations of that fact, but this fact is everything. Then you as a human can open yourself to the unlimited being, and then you will see that this is everything, alleluia, total, absolute, let's die, be clean to be open to the unlimited and be one with it, because it's what you are. Quite simple 

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I can know it, but I can’t see it. I cannot seer the seer. I can only know the seer in this conception as it is known conceptually.

 

The seer is what it's seen, the seer is just the fact of seeing, what is the being knowing that is, it's a fact, not something 

[Mellowmarsh]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Everything started with a bacteria that creates a separation between inside and outside, then in some million of years some bacteria joined together to stole the energy from another bacteria, then a big war started , and some billions of years later a teacher teach me to read, to stole energy better and be the king of the universe, as a cheap novel of fantasy

And you believed everything you were told that originated from a tubeworm. Okay. We came from the sea, not the see.

[Breakingthewall]

5 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

And you believed everything you were told that originated from a tubeworm. Okay. We came from the sea, not the see.

6 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

 

We come from procceses that increased in complexity because it was possible, the expansive drive of the reality happening, like always, because it's inevitable. It's unlimited.

[Mellowmarsh]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

It always happens, it's happening now. What the unlimited being knows is that being is, nothing else, anything else are variations of that fact, but this fact is everything. Then you as a human can open yourself to the unlimited being, and then you will see that this is everything, alleluia, total, absolute, let's die, be clean to be open to the unlimited and be one with it, because it's what you are. Quite simple 

You are claiming the unlimited being knows being is, and nothing else.

Then you claimed a human is a variation of this unlimited being that knows its unlimited, and nothing else, not even knowing its a human?

 

 

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, Mellowmarsh said:

You are claiming the unlimited being knows being is, and nothing else.

Then you claimed a human is a variation of this unlimited being that knows its unlimited, and nothing else, not even knowing its a human?

 

 

Knowledge that you are a human ultimately means knowing that you are, but any existence happen in a form. Anything is ultimately unlimited being expressing itself because it's inevitable. The point is open yourself as a human to the unlimited being really, not like an idea but removing all the barriers and see the totality, then the fact of seen merges with the fact of being and the unlimited is open to itself 

[Mellowmarsh]

13 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The seer is what it's seen, the seer is just the fact of seeing, what is the being knowing that is, it's a fact, not something 

Yeah, it’s called empty seeing, seeing images of its empty self. It’s basically emptiness looking at emptiness, and then this emptiness labels the emptiness something, because what the heck can it do with emptiness? It superimposes something over nothing to make its sorry empty arse feel better. ❤️‍🩹 

[Mellowmarsh]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

Knowledge that you are a human ultimately means knowing that you are, but any existence happen in a form. Anything is ultimately unlimited being expressing itself because it's inevitable. The point is open yourself as a human to the unlimited being really, not like an idea but removing all the barriers and see the totality, then the fact of seen merges with the fact of being and the unlimited is open to itself 

You’re just repeating a mantra that you accuse VA of doing. Using the only knowledge you have available to you as a limited human. Congrats. Fangs for the memory, vampire energy. 

[Breakingthewall]

6 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

You’re just repeating a mantra that you accuse VA of doing. Using the only knowledge you have available to you as a limited human. Congrats. Fangs for the memory, vampire energy. 

13 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

 

What mantra? Anyway if I talk with you answering questions you could be polite. Maybe you don't understand what I'm pointing. Anyway, a pleasure to talk about the topic 

[Mellowmarsh]

20 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

We come from procceses that increased in complexity because it was possible, the expansive drive of the reality happening, like always, because it's inevitable. It's unlimited.

All this implies is that the unlimited cannot know its unlimited because it is the unlimited. If it could know itself it would have to somehow reach the end of its unlimited self  and then look back to see the beginning of its unlimited self. And  then it would know it cannot know it has a beginning or an end because it’s already unlimited to know it’s not unlimited..

[Mellowmarsh]

10 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

What mantra? Anyway if I talk with you answering questions you could be polite. Maybe you don't understand what I'm pointing. Anyway, a pleasure to talk about the topic 

Well as long as you enjoy going round and round in endless circles getting nowhere with another unlimited being that cannot exist apart from unlimited being, then go for it, for all it’s worth.