You cannot know Awareness

[Mellowmarsh]

Because there is only awareness, the content of such is already awareness which cannot be split into knower and known separately.

Reality is seamlessly one flow flowing from itself and returning to itself. Knowing is immediate one without a second.

Knowledge is always on demand, never immediate. Therefore knowledge can only appear to be a real fiction for the mind. 
 

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A.I.
“This statement aligns with philosophical and psychological perspectives that distinguish between conceptual knowledge (labeling, static information) and direct experience (immediate awareness). 

 

Here is a breakdown of why "knowing" is often considered more than just a concept:

Experiential vs. Conceptual: Knowing is frequently described as experiential, immediate, and of the "being," whereas knowledge is often stored information of the mind. For example, you can know about honey (concept) or know the taste of honey (experience). “

[Mellowmarsh]

Continuing…

 

Process vs. Product: "Knowing" can be viewed as a continuous process, whereas a "concept" is a static product or labeled idea.

Beyond Words (Non-Conceptual): Non-conceptual knowing is considered a state of consciousness that occurs when not thinking, involving a deeper, immediate intelligence rather than conceptual categorization.

"Knowing" vs. "Understanding": While understanding involves mental, conceptual, and intellectual processing (connecting dots), knowing can be a direct, non-mental recognition, sometimes described as an unconscious competence. 

 

Essentially, this perspective argues that the act of "knowing" transcends the mental structures (concepts) we use to label it.

[Mellowmarsh]

2 minutes ago, No1Here2c said:

Awareness is the continuous proccess which in it's unfoldment is aware. That awareness is the knowing!

The knowing that cannot be known, because that which is known knows nothing.

[Mellowmarsh]

3 minutes ago, No1Here2c said:

& yet you know this through awareness right now dont ya?

But it’s not a “someone “ who knows. You are the knowing that cannot be known. 

[Mellowmarsh]

17 minutes ago, No1Here2c said:

Youll figure it out

Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups. 

[Mellowmarsh]

2 minutes ago, No1Here2c said:

Exactly

No problem. 

[Mellowmarsh]

4 minutes ago, No1Here2c said:

See there how it works.

Yes I see this body is working. It’s working fine, the last time I checked. 

[Joseph Maynor]

I can know awareness.  

[Mellowmarsh]

Just now, Joseph Maynor said:

I can know awareness.  

I is known, and that which is known knows nothing.

[Joseph Maynor]

1 minute ago, No1Here2c said:

Awareness can know you. 

Is really how it plays out.

Says who?

[Mellowmarsh]

1 minute ago, No1Here2c said:

Says the self reflective aspect.

Reflections know nothing.

[Mellowmarsh]

1 minute ago, No1Here2c said:

Except for the exact image which is reflected.

Exact image of what, exactly?

[Mellowmarsh]

1 minute ago, No1Here2c said:

Put words to the wordless?

Good Luck!

Have fun!

Relative words or ideas ascribed to the absolute is absurd. 

[Mellowmarsh]

You cannot know awareness because you are awareness one without a second.

 

No human being will survive it’s own awakening. One must imagine one is very happy about that. 
 

 

[Willy Phallicus]

17 hours ago, No1Here2c said:

Awareness can know you. 

Is really how it plays out.

Bingo.

[Lyubov]

We live in the unknown. All that arises comes from this and returns to this. Wouldn’t it be so boring if we didn’t? 

[Mellowmarsh]

17 hours ago, No1Here2c said:

Awareness can know you. 

Is really how it plays out.

Awareness can know a thought. ie: a concept, the concept “you” …which is a thought.

But the concept / thought knows nothing. 

Awareness is not the concept / thought it knows.

A thought / concept cannot objectify awareness without turning awareness into an object known, which it is not.

Is really how it plays out. Yes, really. 

 

 

 

 

[Mellowmarsh]

Awareness never tells itself it is aware, it can’t because it’s already self illuminating. It’s too close to itself to look back at itself. 

Being knowingly aware via direct experience is still a mental construct appearing within awareness. Not awareness which neither appears or disappears.

Knowledge can only point to the illusory nature of reality, in that it’s this knowing that cannot be known, for that which is known knows nothing. The known is a fiction, not real. 

While the real and the fiction sound similar, awareness ( real) is the "viewing screen," while self-consciousness is a "character" on that screen ( fiction) 

[Lyubov]

Y'all yap way too much go get a job or something 

[oOo]

@Mellowmarsh You are treating “knowing” too conceptually by making a fixed conceptual split between knowing and knowledge. Awareness is not always accessed as one flat sine wave, it can disclose itself through layers, depths, states, and developmental capacities.

Conceptuality often cloaks awareness , however as a kind of meta-constructural language it also allows awareness to better differentiate, bring balance and recognise itself. So the distinction between direct knowing and conceptual knowledge is useful though only situationally and domain-specifically, not as a global absolute. Because different states of awareness are also going to bring about different bidirectional feedback loops with the content within awareness.

Best regards.