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Hamilton Morris interview from a year go

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Im watching this episode today, granted im only on the first 5 minutes, and its still Hamilton Moris giving his introduction to what the episode is to be about (im farther along now, and 1st 40 mins., we're on the topic of medicine, which touches on Medea, the sorceress and an accomplished pharmakís, a worker in pharmakeía or aka, medicinal magic, and the larger traditions around Ancient Medicine... @44:30 we get into the Jesus stuff)

And ive already watched lots and lots of episodes on Jesus and the possible pedo-like behavior, and what ive learned ~separate from facing that issue directly~ is more on the Ancient Pirating side of things, and how what we would call *magic and ritual today, was often infused w/ the world and the ancient beliefs of these peoples, or atleast, it took on different forms.

And certainly, you had things like the Sabbath (sabato) or the Greek word  σαβά  that has a very specific meaning, αιχμαλωσία, or more specifically "captivity"; Not that anyone knows about this, As most bible scholars believe it to be related to "Shabbat", but little do they know that thats based on the common Greek words and definitions, i.e., captivity, or effectively "prisoners".

Its important to understand how ppl taken + forced to serve, were effectively captives, prisoners, atleast at first this is how you would see it (and how we would see it now). If they stayed aboard and worked, they might be treated as part of the crew, whether willingly or not (also look up "the selling of people in antiquity")

These are terms & idea used initially to describe the latter era of Pirates and Jewish sects dedicated to the trade of individuals, selling, recruiting, pressed-ganged into λῃστεία (leisteía), piracy or the pirate life. People use the bible to define terms, and what you end up w/ is issues, because the Bible is not directly historical.

All the events depicted in the Bible have been compressed down to almost zilch, losing all the necessary context and quality in order to derive terminology, and yet terminology is derived from it ~as if you can use the bible for such terminology~ So some things are pointing to actual events, where as others are additions.

So i dont really know, or have a clue how to illuminate the texts or pages/fragments that speak to such interactions w/ children. In my opinion, it is more of a story about children / teenagers press-ganged as recruits or slaves, those to be press ganged as pirates within Pirate crews, or into the pirate life generally, as pirating and trade was so significant, Again it is well attested in trade, like w/ such people as Lydia (or simply a Lydian woman?), an early convert of Paul the Apostles, dealing in such luxurious supplies, and apparently others close to the apostles who deal w/ substances like the purple and other trade substances speak on this too.

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Paraphrase from Poimandres (Corpus Hermeticum): "... that which is in the Word is also in ourselves."

Greek Magical Papyri (PGM): "I call upon the Word of the All, that which binds heaven and earth, and let it manifest in the circle."

Plato – Cratylus (439–440): "A name is a likeness of the thing itself; if rightly spoken, it carries the essence of what it names."

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George Lakoff and Mark Johnson's 'Metaphors We Live By, argues that abstract thought is fundamentally grounded in bodily and practical experience. You can't reach for a metaphor you haven't lived near. A scribal class person, a Pharisee, a Temple priest, their metaphors skew toward law, purity, genealogy, text. You see that in how the Pharisees argue and think in the gospels. Their conceptual world is documentary and juridical. Likewise, Jesus (or the person writing for him) his conceptual world is tactile and material. He has all this knowledge of stone work, and other artisan skills~Even if its in that sortve, magical triplet feel, its pulling from metaphors that are based in some real place. For that reason, somethings going on w/ Jesus the Carpenter/Stonemason, or atleast... Jesus the Temple Builder, like someone who erects temples, but doesnt want theirselves to be known (possibly a freemason, or templar, whatever) i mean, no one knows what this is, but we do know the main theme. "God" is central to this, and everything is very neatly fitted to speak of it as if it was a real thing that people were talking about. I dont know, but i just see a different story unfolding, one around like, little stories: Whether they were directly relevant at the time of their inclusion, i dont know, and who cares. Its an artists rendering to me. It just so happened to have very strong conviction around it.

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Paraphrase from Poimandres (Corpus Hermeticum): "... that which is in the Word is also in ourselves."

Greek Magical Papyri (PGM): "I call upon the Word of the All, that which binds heaven and earth, and let it manifest in the circle."

Plato – Cratylus (439–440): "A name is a likeness of the thing itself; if rightly spoken, it carries the essence of what it names."

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I awish his name was something like Jesus of Ceos, or Jesus et Pharmikon, i mean, not Ἰησοῦς Χριστός, 'gah i hate that, its like trying to be 'izaiah christendome (Messiah Massiachyah in Hebrew) like deliberate doublets of who they literally are, typeve thing. Like, Theres something very Gaul/Latin/Thracian, or like something very broken about that naming scheme that departs from Greek, Latin, Like iuno, its generating its own universe of names and language suddenly, like its 3rd BC i wanna say was *tria nomina naming in Rome, then 5th Century AD it collapses, and theres the window of antiquity where everyones names are just like, buried under so many influences, its hard to tell if its revealing something, or if there names were just that literal, Pontus (Personification of the Sea) Pirate? C'mon. Fk these names dude.

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Paraphrase from Poimandres (Corpus Hermeticum): "... that which is in the Word is also in ourselves."

Greek Magical Papyri (PGM): "I call upon the Word of the All, that which binds heaven and earth, and let it manifest in the circle."

Plato – Cratylus (439–440): "A name is a likeness of the thing itself; if rightly spoken, it carries the essence of what it names."

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