Where does all our epistemological & spiritual knowledge come from?

[Mellowmarsh]

2 hours ago, No1Here2c said:

@Mellowmarsh

When you are in love how do you know?

When a thing is seen beautiful what is it that taught you of this beauty?

When you are dreaming do you know?

Does knowing accost you upon awakening from a dream?

Sorry, I missed this post. Will answer presently. 

[No1Here2c]

3 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Sorry, I missed this post. Will answer presently. 

Should I let you think you missed it?

or has it been edited?

Edited April 18 by No1Here2c
Edits can and do occur

[Mellowmarsh]

6 minutes ago, No1Here2c said:

@Mellowmarsh

You're hiding God in your pocket or something?

I feel disconnected oftentimes.

& in my struggling to find reconnection I seem to cut myself off further.

I get attached to forms, I cling in terror as I see the life before me heading straight on towards doom. Is this normal?

Yes, it’s normal to feel attached to the images of the imageless. As there’s nothing else to relate to. 
 

Attached means relational. 

[Mellowmarsh]

2 minutes ago, No1Here2c said:

Should I let you think you missed it?

or has it been edited?

I just didn’t see it until later when I reviewed the thread again . I sometimes like to rewind the flow of conversation. 

[No1Here2c]

2 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Attached means relational. 

The beauty, the object, & the observer are identical.

There is literally no possible way to separate the beauty from the one who witnesses it.

[No1Here2c]

1 minute ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I just didn’t see it until later when I reviewed the thread again . I sometimes like to rewind the flow of conversation. 

It was edited ;}

I can tell you which one it was, or I can have more fun letting you figure it out.

 

[Mellowmarsh]

10 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Sorry, I missed this post. Will answer presently. 

I don’t know how I know. I just know without knowing I know. It’s crazy, but I trust that kind of knowing, the only knowing I know but don’t know how I know.

[Mellowmarsh]

4 minutes ago, No1Here2c said:

The beauty, the object, & the observer are identical.

There is literally no possible way to separate the beauty from the one who witnesses it.

Yes, I totally agree. Thank you. 
 

It’s normal to desire that attachment. And to let it go because it’s all you anyway. 

[Mellowmarsh]

8 minutes ago, No1Here2c said:

It was edited ;}

I can tell you which one it was, or I can have more fun letting you figure it out.

 

Ah yes, I can see now that it was edited. 
 

 

[No1Here2c]

11 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

It’s normal to desire that attachment. And to let it go because it’s all you anyway. 

It can become almost a crippling fixation.

For me there is an immediate "snap to awareness" effect of certain powerful experience encountering great beauty or love.

Perhaps this is why I cling to limited forms?

Edited April 18 by No1Here2c

[Mellowmarsh]

3 minutes ago, No1Here2c said:

I think I understand a few of the things you say.

It can become almost a crippling fixation.

For me there is an immediate "snap to awareness" effect of certain powerful experience as Beauty or Love.

It is a crippling fixation, but it’s absolutely endurable , because it’s only love enduring this everlasting love. 

[Mellowmarsh]

25 minutes ago, No1Here2c said:

Perhaps this is why I cling to limited forms?

It’s all there is to cling to. 

[Mellowmarsh]

20 minutes ago, No1Here2c said:

How do you describe love?

Is love something to hold onto?

Is love something that you can simply show another pair of eyes?

How does God play into all of this?

Self?

Flowers?

Reflections & presentations?

We have gone off the rails.

Just this. 
 

There’s nothing else outside or beyond this. 

[UnbornTao]

Mu?

[Mellowmarsh]

46 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Mu?

Could be if only we’d all agree to agree. 👍