The myth of enlightenment

[Mellowmarsh]

The belief in enlightenment is an optical delusion of consciousness in this misconception. 

 

 

[Joseph Maynor]

If enlightenment is such a myth then why are some of us so focused on it?

[Mellowmarsh]

35 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

If enlightenment is such a myth then why are some of us so focused on it?

There’s not a some of us, there’s only consciousness reflecting itself, looking at it self. 
 

“Selves” are an auditory illusion of light and sound. 

[No1Here2c]

On 4/2/2026 at 5:02 AM, Mellowmarsh said:

There’s not a some of us, there’s only consciousness reflecting itself, looking at it self. 
 

“Selves” are an auditory illusion of light and sound. 

Like a mirrored reflection of the entire whole?

Existence reflecting back upon itself from our very eyes?

[Mellowmarsh]

1 hour ago, No1Here2c said:

Like a mirrored reflection of the entire whole?

Existence reflecting back upon itself from our very eyes?

🫶

 

I once told my son that the cherry tree in our garden sees itself as and through your eye. 
He laughed at me for saying that. 🫢 

[No1Here2c]

@Mellowmarsh

The tree laughed too,

Cause it knew what was true.

Thank you for sharing!

[Mellowmarsh]

2 hours ago, No1Here2c said:

@Mellowmarsh

The tree laughed too,

Cause it knew what was true.

Thank you for sharing!

Also, I gathered up all those juicy cherries every season, and the tree never once said “you owe me” 🍒

You’re welcome!

Have a great day! 🙂

[Mellowmarsh]

Ramana Maharshi says: 

You are awareness. Awareness is another name for you. Since you are awareness there is no need to attain or cultivate it. All that you have to do is to give up being aware of other things, that is of the not-Self. If one gives up being aware of them then pure awareness alone remains, and that is the Self.

 

Ramana Maharshi taught: 

The state of Self-realization, as we call it, is not attaining something new or reaching some goal which is far away, but simply being that which you always are and which you always have been.

It is false to speak of realization. What is there to realize? The real is as it is always. We are not creating anything new or achieving something which we did not have before. . . . Liberation is our very nature.  We are that! 

There is no goal to be reached. There is nothing to be attained.  You are the Self.  You exist always. Nothing more can be predicated of the Self than that it exists.  Seeing God or the Self is only being the Self or yourself.  Seeing is being.

 

[Breakingthewall]

3 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Ramana Maharshi taught: 

The state of Self-realization, as we call it, is not attaining something new or reaching some goal which is far away, but simply being that which you always are and which you always have been.

It is false to speak of realization. What is there to realize? The real is as it is always. We are not creating anything new or achieving something which we did not have before. . . . Liberation is our very nature.  We are that! 

There is no goal to be reached. There is nothing to be attained.  You are the Self.  You exist always. Nothing more can be predicated of the Self than that it exists.  Seeing God or the Self is only being the Self or yourself.  Seeing is being.

 

Very incorrect and quite limiting for any seeker. What you are must be polished because it is a dense structure that veils the perception of your total nature.

What we call enlightenment is the complete opening of your perception to your ultimate nature. If your mind is veiled by the human psychological labyrinth, it is closed.

Ramana's text implies that even in a dense state, that is enlightenment because you are consciousness. Complete error. You are consciousness insofar as you are a conscious being, but being trapped in a dense structure is not the same as being open to the totality. 

The ultimate nature of reality is not consciousness, consciousness is the fact, the action of the reality looking to itself. In that action the reality can look some aspect, for example greed, hate, desire, fear, or can open the focus and perceive itself in its ultimate nature. 

[Mellowmarsh]

@Breakingthewall Ramana also said: “When the ‘I’ is divested of the ‘I’ only the ‘I’ remains.” 

 

He never denies the polishing practice. The polishing practice is a human idea after all. Ramana was a human mind.
The practice of polishing the human mind dissolves it completely until it ceases to exist. That’s the purpose of the polishing practice, it’s to clear the veil to reveal an absolute clearer vision. 

In other words: One can be aware without consciousness, but one cannot be conscious without awareness. 

Awareness is the sky (always there), and consciousness is the clouds (temporarily appearing and disappearing.

The human mind is a mythical entity, it’s a ghost in the machine. 

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Mellowmarsh said:

The practice of polishing the human mind dissolves it completely until it ceases to exist. That’s the purpose of the polishing practice, it’s to clear the veil to reveal an absolute clearer vision. 

10 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

 

Yes he said that he asked himself without pause: who I am, etc, but in the text that I quoted he exposed an opposite idea. Ramana isn't clear, he's intentionally confusing and mysterious, when the topic is clear, direct, simple. Reading what he said seems that he was confused. He talked about reincarnation, mashamadi, he said that he enlightened a cow, or that his mother ended the wheel of incarnations. Bit weird right?

[Mellowmarsh]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Bit weird right?

Personally, I think human language is basically just noise emanating out of absolute silence , much a do about nothing.

 

Belief in the meaning of sound is what humans cling to, else what is the mind meant to do with nothing?
Every blah blah blah sounds convincing and better than nothing. I’m sure a chirping bird or a barking dog feels the exact same sense of importance a musing human does when they make a noise, which is just sound heard as words.

 

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Personally, I think human language is basically just noise emanating out of absolute silence , much a do about nothing.

 

Belief in the meaning of sound is what humans cling to, else what is the mind meant to do with nothing?
Every blah blah blah sounds convincing and better than nothing. I’m sure a chirping bird or a barking dog feels the exact same sense of importance a musing human does when they make a noise, which is just sound heard as words.

 

2 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

 

11 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

 

That's not how it is. Words evoke realities in the mind of the listener. They also bind minds, and they can set them free.

Words are structures that reality adopts, and their power is enormous. A word can determine the destiny of humanity; it can also free you from your chains, or imprison you within them.

Words are as real as stones, galaxies, or the entire universe. This spiritual notion that words are false and silence is true, calling this duality non-duality, is as foolish as saying you've enlightened a cow.